http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Forums Forum: Sound Advice en Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:08:06 +0000 http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hdr-fx1-and-a-sennheiser-mic#post-40652 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:04:47 +0000 HOGWILD 40652@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I agree with <a href="http://www.inmotionvideo.biz/"><strong>alohrey</strong></a>. I have both the FX1 and the V1U, but for the FX1, I use the rode video mic <a href="http://usa.rodemic.com/microphone.php?product=VideoMic">http://usa.rodemic.com/microphone.php?product=VideoMic</a>  and don't have any of the issues you are having.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hdr-fx1-and-a-sennheiser-mic#post-40607 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:33:14 +0000 alohrey 40607@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> First of all I know that there are no sensitivity settings on the camera.  The only control you would really be able to make is to manually control your audio gain, and that wouldn't fix the problem.  I have a sony V1u with the short shotgun mic on it, which I have sometimes replaced with a higher end shotgun.  The problem is with your mic holder, and not the mic itself.  In order to fix the problem you need to get an aftermarket mic holder that uses crisscrossing bands for suspending the mic and therefore keeping it from any direct contact with the camera.  These can get expensive for a good one, you might be looking at $200 but to get rid of camera noise it's about the only option aside from getting the mic off the camera completely.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hdr-fx1-and-a-sennheiser-mic#post-40606 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:24:52 +0000 drPHk 40606@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I just picked up a Beachtek and a Sennheiser me66 k6 microphone kit for my FX1. I've got microphone holder for the Z1U and I've attached it to my FX1 so I can have an onboard mic.</p> <p>The problem is this microphone picks up everything. If I zoom in and out I can hear it on playback. If I accidently touch the cord running from my microphone to the beachtek XLR input, I can hear it very good. It shouldn't be so sensitive where I would hear noises just by touching the cord.</p> <p>Is there a sensitivity setting on my camera or on the microphone? I don't want to use a boom pole because I don't have an assistant to follow me.</p> <p>Thanks</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/voice-talent-for-hire#post-40475 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:51:41 +0000 dshetterly 40475@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Greetings!   I'm an independent professional voice talent with a private studio.  I'd like to offer my services to your productions, where you need a friendly non-accented male voice.  I also work with a number of other talents, including native Spanish speakers, if you are wanting to hear variety.  </p> <p>You'll find our rates competitive!   Thanks for your time and I hope to work with you soon.  </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/4-channel-audio-from-a-canon-xl1-download-through-firewire#post-40474 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:45:06 +0000 eenr 40474@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I recorded audio from a wedding through a wireless mic that i had connected to the audio 2 imput of my Canon XL1.</p> <p>I also recorded the ambient sound through the on camera mic that records on audio 1 of the camera.</p> <p>When i play it back i can hear the recorded sound through my headphones on that 3 and 4 channel but i can't hear it when i preview it through firewire going to my capture program. I use Ulead Vegas Movie to do my editing and when i go ahead and capture the video i'm not getting the 3rd and 4th channel. Does anyone have a solution? I'm in desparate need of help. Thanks for any suggestions.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40199 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:47:58 +0000 arby 40199@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>For outdoor standup interviews such as concerts and festivals I use a wireless lapel mic for the interviewer and a wireless handheld mic for guest.  Outdoor events usually have a lot of background noise and the wireless mic picks up the interview voices clearly while leaving most of the background sounds out.  Shotgun mics work well if the background sound is important to your interview.  If its a studio interview I use lapel mics all around.  That will eliminate most of the echos.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40194 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:02:45 +0000 buzzbuilder 40194@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Thanks Rob and Barefoot for your help,</p> <p>I'm giving the pro a try.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40192 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:08:02 +0000 BarefootMedia 40192@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> However I own two of them (each with a lav &amp; handheld mic) and have experienced nothing but practically perfect productions when using it with my VX2100, or any of my other camcorders.  I've used the mics in a variety of productions at a variety of locations.  My experience with far more expensive wireless mics has proven to me that they provide options I don't need.  To start with, other mics are XLR for no real reason (except convention,) so they require a conversion from a balanced to an unbalanced input.  The other compromise for cost is the limit of only two VHF channels.  Should I ever run into interference, I'd be screwed (if I didn't always plan for disasters.)</p> <p>Do not consider running a mic line to your handheld unless you have someone to stop people from walking between the camera &amp; the talent.  For all the years I've been doing this, if it is possible for someone to walk between the camera &amp; the talent, someone will do it.  And while they do it, they pay no attention to the ground and will trip on the mic line if that's possible.  But so long as I'm at the camera, I have had success with putting the talent 6' away while using an 8' mic cord (so it actually hangs two feet from the ground.)</p> <p>Good luck with your production and have some fun.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-best-royalty-free-music-library-available-today#post-40191 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:10:07 +0000 PhonicFood 40191@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>New Phonic Food 2 Showreel Video Released!: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19j2OIClwN8&amp;fmt=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19j2OIClwN8&amp;fmt=6</a> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/royalty-free-music-music-for-video#post-40190 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:09:11 +0000 PhonicFood 40190@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> www.phonicfood.co.uk</p> <p> Just released: New Phonic Food Volume Two Promo Video! : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19j2OIClwN8&amp;fmt=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19j2OIClwN8&amp;fmt=6</a></p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40188 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:05:50 +0000 robgrauert 40188@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> hmm. Well I checked the price of the model you named above. Unfortunately, in that price range your wireless equipment will probably just annoy you. I think you would be better off getting a 10-15 foot XLR cable and using that to connect a handheld mic to your camera. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40185 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:31:57 +0000 buzzbuilder 40185@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> yeah, like a typical news interview, handheld will be needed.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40175 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:32:09 +0000 robgrauert 40175@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> First, how are you going to do the interviews? Are you going to do it like you see on the news? If so, then yes, use a wireless handheld mic.</p> <p> If you are going to interview someone and have the interviewer off camera, then I recommend buying a shotgun mic instead. Not only can that be cheaper, it's ugly when someone is being interviewed and you see a handheld mic at the bottom of the screen, but never the interviewer. At least, that's my opinion. Depends what you're going for, of course.  </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/wireless-handheld-for-my-vx-2100#post-40174 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:28:27 +0000 buzzbuilder 40174@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I'm starting out and am going to be doing alot of interviews with the public, inside and outside.  Have to start out cheap unfortunately and am looking at the Azden wms-pro wireless handheld.</p> <p>Anything similar/better in quality for around the price? Will upgrade in a few month to a better system.</p> <p>thanks</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/youtube-not-accepting-my-stereo-uploads#post-40127 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:09:50 +0000 mixineer 40127@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> After having some success uploading stereo-encoded vids to youtube in the past, all of a sudden, they're coming in as mono now. Is this a glitch in youtube? I'm sure I'm using the same encoding settings as I've saved my settings I was successful with as a preset. Confused and frustrated now. Can someone help me? Thanks a lot.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/audio-technica-88w-quick-question#post-39933 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:33:37 +0000 advil0 39933@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Is it possible to use one reciever and two wireless body-pieces, and connect them to the one reciever?</p> <p>Or is there an easy way to get two mics hooked up?</p> <p>Thanks </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/headphone-solution#post-39879 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:01:08 +0000 BarefootMedia 39879@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yep, that's what I thought you had.  And as i just mentioned above, I've never seen that adapter.  A 3.5mm AV plug into a 3.5mm stereo audio plug isn't something an audio tech would have a use for.  A headphone jack is a "variable line-out" while the signals from an AV plug are all "line level" which is generally much less than the "variable line level" for headphones.  But anyway, you plug the cable in the photo into the camcorder, then you have any number of adapters to connect the RED right audio channel and the WHITE left audio channel to your headphones.  The headphones need a 3.5mm stereo mini-plug connected to seperate left and right female RCA's.  I tested this myself and it works as well as it can work.</p> <p>Please let me know if you're confused in any way, hope you get this working for you.  You might get better volume if you combine both audio channels.  But it will still be very low level sound.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/headphone-solution#post-39878 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:27:15 +0000 thebergs2010 39878@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> please read above posts.</p> <p>there is no problem with the headphones or connection. it's just that the plug is not made to put headphones into. it is a combination Audio Video 1/8" jack:</p> <p><img src="http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/images/oreilly/digitalmedia/2006/11/zune-tips-fig1-cable.jpg" /></p> <p>just want to know if there's any way to put in headphones to this plug and not have horrible buzzing thru the one earbud (which is trying to do video; but obviously, it's kinda hard for headphones to show video...)</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/audio-in-a-noisey-room#post-39864 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:32:11 +0000 butterflyguy 39864@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If you want a cheap solution, carry a wired omni direcitonal microphone with you on a small base.</p> <p>As you go from table to table, place the mike on the table and record, then move onto another table.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/audio-in-a-noisey-room#post-39860 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:07:12 +0000 AaronMurphy 39860@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Here's a great PZM you can rent:</p> <p><a href="http://www.proaudiosuppliers.com/crown-pzm-30d.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.proaudiosuppliers.com/crown-pzm-30d.html</a></p> <p>Go to crown's website for more models.</p> <p>It's an omnidirectional mic that goes in the middle of the table. As long as your subjects are within 3-4 feet of the mic and the room is not LOUD, you should get pretty good seperation between your table people and the background noise.</p> <p>We use a variation of this model to hide mics in the head-boards of the cast's beds on the Real World for MTV.  I was the Supervising Mixer on that show for 2 seasons.</p> <p>They should be no more that $15/a day (each) to rent.  Try VER (video equipment rentals), Wexler Video, or LocationSound.com if you don't have a local rental house that can help you out.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-to-mic-a-boxing-ring-for-sound#post-39859 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:47:22 +0000 AaronMurphy 39859@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Re: mics under matt</p> <p> This would work great for the slams but do NOTHING for the kicks and punches unfortunately.</p> <p>I was the Supervising Sound Mixer on the Tough Enough I (MTV) with WWF.  We would just use a long shotgun from the ropes (like the Sennheiser MKH70) or even a shorter mic like the MKH60 or the MKH416.  It needs to be pretty close to work if their is lots of music and announcing.  We also experimented with PZM (boundary) mics planted overhead.   One right in the middle of the ring worked pretty well but again bleed from the environment has a lot to do with your success with any solution.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/headphone-solution#post-39858 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:35:07 +0000 AaronMurphy 39858@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Sounds like you might have something jammed inside the jack that is preventing it connecting both ears.  Try another pair headphones/earbuds and if you still have a problem try dipping your headphone jack into contact cleaner or rubbing alcohol, hold the camera upside down with the jack as the lowest point, and  vigorously plug in your wet headphone connect several times.  Might just need to get some of the corrosion off and this could do the trick.  Let me know if this help!!!!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/xlr-adapter#post-39805 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:46:01 +0000 BarefootMedia 39805@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Everything robgrauert has mentioned is exactly correct, if not a bit of overkill.  If they are sending you an XLR line out from the mixing board,  you need to make two conversions.  Let me elaborate (you knew I would.)</p> <p>Let me start with sound boards or mixers, I've been on the receiving end of many, many of them.  Here's a bit of what I've learned.  Mixers have a variety of outputs.  The biggest advantage to using the balanced XLR cable to connect you to the mixer is it let's you borrow their cable to do it.  Mixers on the professional level usually have a 1/4" mono line out.  The 1/4" or "guitar plug" cable is a commonly used cable for line to line signals and the adapters from 1/4" to 1/8" are much less expensive.  And I've seen a lot of mixers for public address systems have several XLR mic out connections in a row (but no useable "line out" connections.)</p> <p>The only sure way I have found (in my 20+ years) of having the correct connection is to bring along two to three hundred dollars in connectors, like in a production van.  Next best is to speak with the person who runs the audio board, even better if you can meet at the mixer's location.  Then you can identify exactly what is easiest for you to do and achieve the best results.  Starting from the top; is there any sort of mic out to record the mix; what are the options for lineout signals;  how far will I need to be from the mixer to shoot decent video; and who is providing that cable?  It's best to have settled these questions ahead of time.  My experience with audio techs indicates they will arrive with the just enough time that setting up requires.  Then they break until the show starts.  So you just gotta speak with someone ahead of time to insure the audio tech is expecting you to plug into their baby.  I've been refused on occasion, even when the band was asking the audio tech to let me plug in.</p> <p>I think I may have drifted off there.  If you're only making educated guesses as to what you'll need, here's what I'd recommend.  Converting a line level signal to a mic level signal is called attenuation.  Radio Shack and others sell short attenuator cables.  If all you want to record is the mixer audio, you will also need a mono mini-plug to a stereo mini-jack, otherwise you risk any number of nasty audio surprises.  Now I recommend also using a mic near you to record one channel of the crowd &amp; ambient audio, then you'd need an L &amp; R 1/8" mono mini-plug to 1/8" stereo mini-jack adapter.  So let's start at the camcorder with whichever mono to stereo adapter we select, then we'd put in the attenuator cable, mine is a female RCA in to a mono 1/8" male out.  There is a large variety of adapters available to plug into the female RCA.  So pick up an XLR male to an RCA male adapter.  Now you're set to take an XLR line out to record properly going into your 1/8" stereo mic in.  The beauty of this 3 adapter system is flexibility.  Should you have a 1/8" mono mic in, delete the stereo adapter.  If you're able to get a mic out signal, delete the attenuator.  Actually, you'd have to replace it with an RCA female to 1/8" mono mini-jack.  Or an XLR male to an 1/8" mono mini-jack.  But you get the idea, there are more modest ways to go at this than a combo mixer/adapter.</p> <p>And I have a last chance, Hail Mary audio trick I can share.  If you can commandeer your own headphone plug.  The 1/4" male to 1/8" male stereo adapter comes along with a lot of headphones I've purchased.  Then you connect the camcorder using a cable with male jacks on both ends, or use a headphone extension with a male to male adapter at one end.  Anyway, the point being that the headphone signal is a "variable line" out.  Meaning you can adjust the audio volume, although it is generally going to be kept very, very low, to be able to record decent audio going in the 1/8" stereo mic on the camcorder.  But it is really tricky when you have to leave the microphone in an "auto-level" setting.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/royalty-free-music-music-for-video#post-39800 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:22:46 +0000 gerard 39800@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> You can try <a href="http://www.musicmediatracks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.musicmediatracks.com</a> Music is completely royalty-free. No additional fees from BMI, ASCAP...Free tunes are available!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/xlr-adapter#post-39768 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:56:55 +0000 robgrauert 39768@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/418508-REG/Beachtek_DXA6VU_DXA_6VU_Audio_Adapter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/418508-REG/Beachtek_DXA6VU_DXA_6VU_Audio_Adapter.html</a></p> <p>This one has line/mic switches.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/xlr-adapter#post-39767 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:01:15 +0000 MilkmanMurdock 39767@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Yeah my Sony TRV17 doesn't have any sort of line in, just the 1/8 mic input. The camera cannot receive the audio feed from a soundboard the same it would as an external microphone? Seems like it would do the same thing.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/xlr-adapter#post-39766 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:50:50 +0000 robgrauert 39766@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I don't see a mic/line switch on that adapter, and I'm sure your consumer camcorder won't have one either. You want one that can switch between mic and line because you use mic when you connect a microphone and you use line when you connect something like a soundboard to your camcorder.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/xlr-adapter#post-39765 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:10:25 +0000 MilkmanMurdock 39765@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm new to the business and I am wondering if the adapter I am linking to below will allow mics/sound equipment to be run into the standard mic jack on a consumer level camera...a 1/8 audio jack I believe. <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/531333-REG/Beachtek_BEDXA6HD_DXA_6HD_Dual_Hi_Definition_Audio.html">XLR Adapter</a>. I'm shooting a sporting event and they wish to have the microphone of the announcer run into an audio board, and from there into my camera to get "direct" recording. Is this going to allow it or am I missing something?</p> <p>Or can I simply use an xlr to 1/8 adapter to get the desired result <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/400719-REG/Monster_Cable_125088_iStudioLink_XLR_to_1_8_.html">like this</a>?</p> <p>Thanks</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-to-mic-a-boxing-ring-for-sound#post-39728 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:11:56 +0000 brandon0409 39728@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Here is my suggestion.  I used to go to alot of wrestling matches.  I also used to watch alot of wrestling on TV.</p> <p>What you see and hear on TV is NOT what you see and hear in person. </p> <p>I have sat at ringside and could barely hear them being slammed on the matte.  but when I watched it back on TV it sounded like they added the audio in post.  which obviously didn't happen.</p> <p>I would call the local auditorium and find out how they mic the ring.  Many times they use the event staff at the auditoriums to set the shows up.  They would definitely know.</p> <p>My friend whom is a WWE farm-league wrestler (NWA wildside) said they put the mics under the ring then obviously on the cameras.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-digital-audio-recorder-at-wedding#post-39727 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:48:51 +0000 brandon0409 39727@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I am going to respectfully disagree with most of the previous poster.</p> <p>I live in Greenville, SC. I have shot nearly 30 weddings and I have been told out right by each and every church that I AM NOT allowed to use wireless mics. The reason? They have a sound system and they don't want to take a chance that my system will interfere with theirs.Ã?  I just follow their rules.</p> <p>I live in a growing town where most of the churches have pretty nice systems.</p> <p>Now to compensate, I do two things (If I am at all able).</p> <blockquote> <p>1. I ask if they have the capability to record the audio through their wireless system. Then I ask for a copy of that recording.</p> <p>2. I mic anyone not already wearing a wireless mic with my digital voice recorder.</p> </blockquote> <p>I use an <strong>Olympus WS-100</strong>. In Hi-qualtiy mode, it records to WMA at 44.1 kHz for 4hrs 20min in stereo.</p> <p>The only quirk I have with it is that I have to adjust the the audio line to 100.04% of the original speed so that it syncs with the video.</p> <p>The sound quality is excellant! In most cases, better that the wireless system that the churches audio is recorded from.</p> <p>I have gotten to the point I don't plan on even using the church recording because my digital recording is sooo much better.</p> <p>I think that many of the people that say, "No" to digital recorders, are purists. They are comfortable with the way things have always worked. I don't fault anyone for that. I understand completely. Do what you are comfortable with. I received my college degree in Music Education. I myself am the biggest of musical snobs. I am a musical purist. But I find that being able to assure the church/venue administration with 100% confidence that my sound recording device will not cause interference makes my job so much easier.</p> <p>Many people have told me in the past that if you have issue with the church rules, then get your debating skills ready and make your case to the church.  But why do that when there is a better way. A way where the sound is just as good.</p> <p>But I look at it like this, if people didn't try new/different things we would still be using VHS tapes and large editing machines that only rich people would ever be able to get into the editing business.</p> <p><em>Note:<br /> There are newer digital recorders on the market now that record much much higher quality. I have seen some that record straight to CD quality WAV files.</em></p>