http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Forums » Tag: audio - Recent Posts en Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:21:35 +0000 http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51480 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:24:50 +0000 EarlC 51480@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Line to mic WILL distort and overwhelm your mic circuits and could possibly cause serious damage to the audio circuits of your camcorder. DO NOT directly connect a line feed to a microphone input without some kind of converter!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51464 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:27:51 +0000 film814 51464@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If you only have a 1.8" input, and want XLR inputs and controls, I would strongly recommend a JuicedLink.  You can get them at B&amp;H, and they work just like the Beachtek, but the preamps are much higher quality.</p> <p>I've used one on a camera while shooting a stage production, and the audio came out gorgeous.  (Plus it gives you the flexibility of not only using professional mics, but picking up a feed from a mixer if you want.  i.e. if you're doing the video, and there's some other professional doing audio.)</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51460 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:25:20 +0000 XTR-91 51460@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You'll probably be able to feed a line signal into a mic input, whether it's switchable or not. You won't be able to feed a mic signal into a line port, on the other hand, and get any usable signal. Numerous times, I've been able to connect the speaker (line output) of my computer to my PC's audio input being set to Mic mode. The audio levels were fine after a significant amount of adjusting the speaker and microphone levels.</p> <p>The possible side-effect of feeding a line signal into a mic input is an extra amplifyed and distorted signal. Most camcorders that don't have manual sound level controls will often adjust the levels automatically, so there probably won't be any worry.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51458 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:51:42 +0000 D0n 51458@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I shoot weddings.</p> <p>I considered the beachtek adaptors.</p> <p>I went instead with a peavy pv6 usb mixing board.</p> <p>My reasoning was simply this.... some of the venues and churches I've been to have archaic soundboards and rather than risk plugging into phantom powered, plugs by accident or trying to figure out how to use/troubleshoot someone else's board it is easier to plug into thier board (even if the fastest means is to put a splitter on thier headphone jack, into a board that is safe and set up right, into both one or more  of my camcorders and my laptop.</p> <p> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51452 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:25:16 +0000 BruceMol 51452@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> If the mic input on the HF20 is like the HV20, you'll have to deliver signal from your soundboard to a 1/8" stereo mini-plug. With the HV20 you can select auto or manual levels. I have to tell you though, if the HF is like the HV, it's really hard to monitor the levels and the indicator levels aren't so accurate. If it's a critical event, you want back up sound from some other device. I've used a ZOOM H2 hooked up to a soundboard for music and vocal and my HV20 recording the ambient hall sound - I sync them up later. I see that BeachTek and others make a box that adds XLR inputs to cameras like ours. I've never tried one because the price was the same for a ZOOM and Earl has written about them before and he is absolutely right, they are worth the money, piece of mind, ease of use, easy to monitor. </p> <p>So, you probably can fiddle with the HF20 input levels for use with a soundboard, BeachTek boxes will allow you to do that better than the HF20 at the expense of adding some audio complexity but if you used an auxiliary audio device you'd have two copies of your sound - redundancy is good.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51450 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:22:27 +0000 EarlC 51450@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>That would be true, Rob, except I think all the HF20 has is a minijack microphone input. Still, I should not have been so blunt because there are ways to go from line to mic, or mic to line, but not without some degree of jury rigging and that often brings on additional audio problems, or can.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51448 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:13:51 +0000 robgrauert 51448@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If your camera has an audio input, such as an XLR connection, that can be set to Line or Mic, then it should be able to receive a feed from a mixer...</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51446 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:06:40 +0000 EarlC 51446@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Only microphones.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/using-an-audio-mixer-with-a-camcorder#post-51443 Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:09:35 +0000 MachVI 51443@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've been out of video production for 15 years and am getting ready to jump back in with an HD camcorder purchase, but one of my absolute "must haves" is the ability to feed the camcorder with the "line out" of an audio mixing board for some studio work. What is not clear to me is if the microphone input jack (such as on a Canon HF20) is compatible with the normal line levels from an audio device, or will it only work with microphones?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/capturing-nature-audio#post-51026 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:25:48 +0000 gldnears 51026@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Peachydingo asks: " I would like to do field recordings of nature sounds here in Florida (birds, frogs, etc.) The conditions can be hot and humid, and I need to work at night.</p> <p>What types of mikes and recorders would you recommend?</p> <p>I like the idea of the zoom H4n with phantom powered shotguns, but should I also consider a high end stereo mic for ambient? "</p> <p>There are a couple dozen or more decent small, portable digital audio recorders. I haven't had enough experience with them so I can't make any recommendations other than the Korg MR-1000 which I have owned for a couple years. Phantom power at the mic jacks is a good thing, but be sure the available voltage will power your mic of choice; ie, some " Phantom power " is only 12 volts, whereas most of the better condenser mics require 48 volts. I'm not a fan of pocket recorders which feature automatic level control. If one is not careful, a recording may come out squashed; ie, obviously compressed dynamic range . . . </p> <p>My preference for " ambiences " would be a pair of good omni-directional condenser mics, spaced ten or twelve feet. ( Gee, I hope you're not considering surround sound! ) Coincident stereo mics, shotgun or otherwise, simply do not provide the sense of space an omni pair can provide. ( doubling up a mono track is poor man's faux stereo which went out a couple decades ago ) There is no need for tall mic stands when recording BG's ( less gear to tote ). The mics should be as close to the ground as possible w/o getting em wet!</p> <p>As for recording specific critter noises, it's hard to beat something like the Sennheiser 815 long shotgun. You'll need only one mic here, to record your critter in mono, which will presumably be mixed into the stereo BG bed you have recorded, when you get to the sound mix on your project. Parabolic mics color the sound too much in my opinion. </p> <p>Try to keep your gear to a minimum and your setups simple as possible out there in the boonies!</p> <p>R Crampton </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/capturing-nature-audio#post-50947 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:05:08 +0000 composite1 50947@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>"... Old DAT recorder...."</p> <p>Ha! I've even got some old 'brand new' never been opened DAT tape I could sell you cheap. Yeah, you could easily run with that. But if you're of the growing throng of production pros who can't stand to digitize anything anymore, your best option is flash media. I kinda miss DAT's. If you had one with timecode on it long as you kept it dry and the heads clean they worked great. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/capturing-nature-audio#post-50921 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:14:25 +0000 grinner 50921@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>an old DAT recorder from ebay. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/capturing-nature-audio#post-50912 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:04:05 +0000 composite1 50912@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Peachy,</p> <p>Shotgun mics + parabolic dish + pistol grip + fuzzy muff. Add unlubricated condom over the mic (not over the muff) if conditions are wet. You can buy a PB Dish or prefab one yourself. Save your money from the 'high-end stereo mic' and use it to buy a good flash format audio recorder and XLR cables. You get good audio on one channel and you can copy it to a second for the 'stereo effect' in audio post.</p> <p>Enjoy the mosquitoes and don't forget to set your watch for the 3 O'clock rainstorms. Oh and that thing floating in the water coming towards you isn't a log.... </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/capturing-nature-audio#post-50901 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:11:15 +0000 peachydingo 50901@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I would like to do field recordings of nature sounds here in Florida (birds, frogs, etc.) The conditions can be hot and humid, and I need to work at night.</p> <p>What types of mikes and recorders would you recommend?</p> <p>I like the idea of the zoom H4n with phantom powered shotguns, but should I also consider a high end stereo mic for ambient?</p> <p>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/streaming-playback-issue-sound-wont-play-through-pc-speakers#post-50801 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:10:59 +0000 sswiller 50801@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I am editing videos using Final Cut Pro v6, exporting them with video at 48KHZ, then transcoding them to flash using Squeeze; the audio is uncompressed. For some strange reason, when the videos are viewed on PCs, the sound doesn't play out of the PC Speaker. It only plays when you connect headphones or external speakers to the headphone jack. I can't figure out why. One thing I've noticed is that when I change the audio panning in FCP to '0,' I get no sound at all. Thanks for your advice.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/syncing-audio-from-multiple-cameras#post-50659 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:23:27 +0000 grinner 50659@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Just use the audio from one source and cut the other cameras to it. To save time, let em free run. You can then sync each camera one time on different tracks and go through subtractivly, as if switching a live show. This keeps ya from finding sync without matching time code per shot. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/syncing-audio-from-multiple-cameras#post-50641 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:38:04 +0000 nccgeorges 50641@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi EarlC,</p> <p>When you do live recording and you get all those live inputs, individual lines to your board, camera inputs from your cameras and all those H2 recorders. </p> <p>With all those recorded inputs, when you mix down the video and audio with something like FinalCut how do sync the audio from all those source that they all sync up in post production. I would guess you blend the inputs to what sounds best. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/does-adobe-premiere-pro-cs4-have-its-own-audio-editor#post-50491 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:12:01 +0000 BruceMol 50491@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> As Chuck says, it's basic. You can easily do what you are wanting to do with, cut, paste, copy, trim, change the gain of segments or by key frame, fade in, out and across, there's other stuff too. I only go to Soundbooth to get rid of hums, clicks etc. Audacity works well for that too though. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/does-adobe-premiere-pro-cs4-have-its-own-audio-editor#post-50489 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:56:19 +0000 sea 50489@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks chuckengels! I thought about downloading Audacity (I tried Wavosaur but didn't work it seems) so perhaps that's a good way to go. :-)</p> <p>So just how basic is Premiere Pro? I just want to cut out the stumbles and bumbles and move the audio around. ;)</p> <p>Jamie </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-hf-200-audio#post-50484 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:19:40 +0000 cuba1902 50484@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Nevermind I figured it out. I had to reset the camera and it started working again. HOray!!!!!!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/does-adobe-premiere-pro-cs4-have-its-own-audio-editor#post-50481 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:43:50 +0000 chuckengels 50481@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Premiere Pro will edit audio however it is quite basic. Adobe has Audition which is it's high end audio editor and is well worth the price. There is also Adobe Soundbooth, a little less expensive but not as many tools. </p> <p>Have you tried Audacity? It's actually very good and it's free. You would have to export the audio to WAV and then do the work in Audacity then export back to your project.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/does-adobe-premiere-pro-cs4-have-its-own-audio-editor#post-50479 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:28:11 +0000 sea 50479@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've been trying out Vegas Pro 9 and found it disappointing in that it didn't have its own audio editor. I'm just getting started in video production and I'm used to editing audio in Cubase, Samplitude, etc.</p> <p>Currently I'm working on editing a 1 hour Webinar that was saved as a WMV file. The narrator voiceover needs to get tweaked (delete coughs, stumbles, etc.) and the video is just powerpoint slides.</p> <p>So far it seems I'm forced to edit the audio in Cubase, then import back into Vegas 9 and try to line up the video. If I was using Adobe Premiere Pro CS4, could it handle everything all-in-one?</p> <p>Thanks,<br /> Jamie </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-hf200-headphone-question#post-50451 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:21:01 +0000 cuba1902 50451@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello everyone<br /> I just purchased about a month ago a Canon HF200 Vixia and I have to say its a wonderful camera, but when in movie mode I can't seem to hear anything out of my<br /> headphones while recording. It works great in dual shot and photo modes, but just not<br /> in movie mode for some reason. Can anyone give me some advice on perhaps I may be<br /> doing something wrong or is this one of Canons flaws I may have found. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/canon-hf-200-audio#post-50443 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:02:24 +0000 cuba1902 50443@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I have a question on my Canon HF 200 if anyone is familiar with it. I wanted to connect headphones to it to listen to my talent, but it only seems to work in Dual shot or taking photos mode. It won't work in movie mode though which I found strange. I wanted to capture that cinematic look and shoot with 24 fps, but it just doesn't allow me to listen in on headphones in movie mode though. It does work great in the other two modes just fine. Any suggestions would be great. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/audio-filtering#post-49901 Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:13:10 +0000 david5566 49901@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>it seems that Avid Liquid Pro cannot do this job. I have ever used Samplitude. It's also a power tool just like Sony's  SoundForge. Search it and get a try.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/external-camcorder-mic-vs-portable-audio-field-recorder#post-49306 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:22:30 +0000 jans123 49306@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi! Read the post and just had to register to get into this forum.</p> <p>With a similar budget problem I bought a H2 a year ago. Unfortunately my camcorders external mic input only works in editing mode, not when recording video (! yeah, silly!) hence I can't test if I can use it as an external mic on that device, but the H2 has a active line/earphone output making it probably possible to use in conjunction with a suitable camcorder as external mic while recoding on the H2’s SD-card. The benefit is that the audio quality is probably much higher on the sound recorded in the H2 and also you have the soundtrack at the vide recording to chose from.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-videostudio-pro-x2-create-multiple-audio-tracks-on-dvd#post-47900 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:56:55 +0000 BlackLab 47900@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>You cannot do that with VideoStudio.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/best-wireless-mic-for-canon-gl2#post-47291 Thu, 28 May 2009 13:38:53 +0000 XTR-91 47291@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>NADY has a dual set of entry-level pro quality dynamic microphones (about $50). I purchased a set of dynamic mics before I realized what I needed was a shotgun mic. I will probably be selling these on eBay later on, at a cheaper price.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nady.com/dkw_duo.html">http://www.nady.com/dkw_duo.html</a></p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/best-wireless-mic-for-canon-gl2#post-47282 Thu, 28 May 2009 04:31:30 +0000 Sterling 47282@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have a GL-1 with Beachtek XLRmixer/adapter, an Azden dual channel wireless system and Shure SM-11 wired lavalier mics.  Whenever I can, I would rather use the wired lavalier mics.  I don't have to worry about interference and batteries and switches.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/external-camcorder-mic-vs-portable-audio-field-recorder#post-47281 Thu, 28 May 2009 04:22:03 +0000 Sterling 47281@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> I have recorded musical performances and lectures with my Audio-Technica ATR-25 stereo electret mic ($35) plugged into my Canon GL-1 and also to my Panasonic PV-GS350.  The quality is clean.  I use a shielded stereo extension cable going into a right-angle adapting cable, actually a headphone volume control adapting cable from Radio Shack.  As with any low-priced mic, low frequency extension will be limited, but you can hear what you are getting, monitoring with headphones, and the quality may even exceed your expectations.  If you can place your mic on a stand near a sound reinforcement speaker, you will probably get more direct sound and less crowd noise.  Of course, if that area is a mosh pit, it would not be a safe location.  And, the SPL may cause distortion in cheaper mics.  </p>