http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Forums Tag: high-definition en Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:23:36 +0000 http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lo-fi-vs-hi-def#post-39851 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:53:49 +0000 jerronsmith 39851@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>It actually depends on who the audience is. Marketing is targeted to a specific audience.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lo-fi-vs-hi-def#post-39840 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:51:07 +0000 blumantaray 39840@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>One of the rules of thumb in creating content for the web is always to build for the lowest common denominator of your expected audience first. </em></p> <p>That's kind of what I was getting at. I guess part of the problem with my question is that I was talking about both production values and content, which is where it gets confusing.</p> <p>I finally found an example of what I'm talking about. The company gotvmail recently released viral videos with Gary Busey in them (you can watch them at <a href="http://www.garybuseyonbusiness.com" rel="nofollow">www.garybuseyonbusiness.com</a>). These actually seem more or less professional, shot in a small studio probably, but they also have a kind of lo-f, user-generated feel about them, partly because Gary Busey is so stupid but because they're so off-the-cuff. I don't know whether they're HD or not. But this is the kind of video that could potentially appeal to a youtube surfer while making it clear that it was made by a company with more money than you and your home movie makin' friends.</p> <p>So, to rephrase the question, is it better when companies aim for the kind of idiocy that gets hits these days online, or is there a place for more classic advertisement?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lo-fi-vs-hi-def#post-39718 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:18:37 +0000 jerronsmith 39718@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Another issue is that the playback of high definition video requires greater system resources on the viewers computer than the lower definition counterparts.</p> <p>One of the rules of thumb in creating content for the web is always to build for the lowest common denominator of your expected audience first.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lo-fi-vs-hi-def#post-39680 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:06:23 +0000 domineaux 39680@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p><em>I presume you are talking about website playback of video  </em></p> <p><em>It's got a lot more to do with user connection speeds and computer hardware when you provide video in HD.</em></p> <p><em>HD requires more resources at the server level.</em></p> <p><em>If we didn't have DSL and Cable connections the Youtube would not exist even using standard def.</em></p> <p><em>Most sites would do well to have a standard and Hi-Def choice.</em></p> <p><em>This way users can click on Standard, which isn't that bad in some formats.</em></p> <p><em>I have an e6600 quad core processor OC to 3.4GHz, 4 gig of ram, nvidia 8800gtx OC 512MB Video card and DSL connection. WHen I try to play HD I frequently cannot get a good stream, and must constantly click on the arrow. There are some good formats that playback very good resolution quality and they aren't HD.</em> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/lo-fi-vs-hi-def#post-39677 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:30:42 +0000 blumantaray 39677@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Maybe this is an odd start to a thread because I don't have any real question per se, I just find it interesting how (and correct me if I'm wrong) as the technology for creating movies and distributing them gets better and better we have websites like youtube and google video where millions of people are watching some of the most horrendously compressed video I've ever seen. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking these sites, because they do what they do well -- they bring content to the masses with speed and can expose a lot of people to new audiences. But now video production, even for corporations, requires riding this thin line between lo-fi content that can be cheaply and broadly distributed, and hi-def cutting edge content that expresses professionalism.</p> <p>I can't really think of any good examples where a company has done both, which may weaken my argument (maybe you can), but it's a discussion worth having. What do people seem to want more of these days?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/ode-to-the-camera#post-38605 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:50:34 +0000 grinner 38605@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'm kind of hard on a camera. Thought I'd make a trubute piece:</p> <p><a href="http://moddinart.com/camera.wmv">http://ModdinArt.com/camera.wmv</a></p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-38231 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:10:29 +0000 P63 38231@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote><p>One thing that you may want to consider: although the quality of a compact HD camera like the HVX200 or XHG1 may be just as high as a larger HD camera, appearance will make an impression on your clients. </p></blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>x2</p> <p> LOL, panasonic has a new camera that is big by design, with this tiny little lense up front (hidden by a big housing).</p> <p>I did a gig recently in which my larger camera wasn't visible to the audience. I had a smaller camera in hand. Two people approached me worried about the quality of the resulting disk. Presentation is critically important, not just in the delivered product, but at every step of the project.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-37294 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:19:56 +0000 chrisColorado 37294@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The canon XH A1 is a pretty good camera that i used on my last film. We shot in SD I think. It's a nice camera, if you like miniDV, which I do not.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-37281 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:44:50 +0000 robgrauert 37281@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> hmm...im surprised the XH-A1 shoots SD too. It doesn't say that in B&amp;H. Well that's pretty sweet.</p> <p> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-37275 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:52:56 +0000 FrankieBoy 37275@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi!</p> <p>I just got my XH-A1 a week ago after reading heaps about it first and checking out lots of beautiful videos on Vimeo.</p> <p>I don't know where you get the idea that the XH-A1 doesn't shoot SD??? It SHOOTS SD in either 4x3 or full 16x9 as well as giving you the option of SHOOTING in HD and outputting that footage as SD DV if you don't have the software or hardware to edit HD. That's a good option, leaving you the original tapes still in HD, in case you some time in the future wanna edit them in HD.</p> <p>So yes, you have THREE options of getting SD out of the XH-A1.  =) I'm an old BIIIG fan of the DVX100 and was very close to buying it - even in these times of HD - but finally bumped into the XH-A1 on the net and having read LOTS about it + mainly watching a lot of videos shot on it, decided it's a better option, giving me more options than the DVX100. I have never had any problems with the DVX100 SD image, except for the fact that it doesn't have true 16x9 capture. I was even thinking of buying the cam and later the anamorphic lens for it, but once the XH-A1 came down to the same price as a brand new DVX100B, the choice wasn't hard. I have been considering the HVX200, too, but it only shoots HD on SP2 cards, which are insanely expensive. Compare that to capturing HD on regular MiniDV tapes. For any longer shooting yo can save all of the original stuff, without any need to constantly download everything off the cards. Alsoif yo find comparisons on the net, you can see that the XH-A1 shoots better low light footage than the HVX200.</p> <p>The XH-A1 is a good cam, best in its price range. And more manual controls than many more expensive cameras.</p> <p>-F-</p> <p> ;)</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-36826 Sun, 25 May 2008 23:48:23 +0000 robgrauert 36826@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Why do you need one that shoots both? Why do you want to avoid shooting and editing in HD and then down converting to SD when you're all done editing? Doing that gives you really nice SD anyway. </p> <p>I'm just curious.... </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-36816 Sun, 25 May 2008 21:18:58 +0000 awes125 36816@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thanks Rob. I've got a DVX100B right now and I'm extremely happy with the SD quality on it, I was just hoping that HD was something that I may be able to add to the mix of what I can offer. It's a shame that the XH A1 is such a great camera but can't even shoot in SD! Especially since they haven't even really decided on an official media for HD yet.</p> <p>I would LOVE the HVX200 if I had the budget for it. Maybe the FX1, I think it can shoot BOTH SD and HD. Hmmm...</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-36811 Sun, 25 May 2008 20:11:04 +0000 robgrauert 36811@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Nope. I just checked bhphotovideo.com and that camera doesn't shoot SD. Some cameras do shoot SD and HD. The Panasonic HVX200 does. So with a little more research, you may be able to find the right camera. </p> <p>You can always shoot and edit in HD and then down convert to SD. I've never done that before because I haven't yet worked with HD, but I couldn't imagine it taking very long. Doing that will make for very nice looking SD as well. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/can-hd-camera-record-in-sd#post-36804 Sun, 25 May 2008 16:14:29 +0000 awes125 36804@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>This may be a dumb question, but can all HD video cameras record in Standard Definition as well? I am thinking of getting an HD camera for various projects but would also like to keep shooting some projects in SD and I don't want to have to down convert everytime. Does the Canon XH A1 shoot in SD?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-36415 Sat, 10 May 2008 19:23:18 +0000 film814 36415@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><em>My question is this….Which $5000.00 HD camera will open the most possible gigs for me? Which camera will limit possible jobs?</em></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>One thing that you may want to consider: although the quality of a compact HD camera like the HVX200 or XHG1 may be just as high as a larger HD camera, appearance will make an impression on your clients.  I know from personal experience that going into a shoot with a large shoulder-mount camera can give a much more professional look, and I have even gotten comments ("that looks like a really professional/expensive piece of equipment!") about it from customers.  That in mind, you may want to consider a larger camcorder.  This may cost you little more than you were hoping, but in the long run it will be worth it.</p> <p>Jeremy</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-36407 Sat, 10 May 2008 13:08:06 +0000 ReRow 36407@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>i want an inexpensive hard drive high def camcorder with mic inputs light /nightvision stableizer what do i want?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-36264 Thu, 01 May 2008 07:53:57 +0000 mvansomeren 36264@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I am correct about the XHG1 outputting 1920 x 1080 through SDI.  It's also true for the XL H1 and the XL H1s.  You can easily verify the specs on the Canon site.  Remember that when you out put through SDI you are not compressing it to HDV.  You are using a computer with a SDI capture card to capture live, uncompressed video.</p> <p>I like the Sony EX1 as well but as you mentioned it cost about $2K more than $5,000.  It also suffers from the same problem as the HVX in that you store video to memory cards...albiet not as expensive as P2 cards, its still an investment to be able to do lengthy gigs. In addition, the EX1 is a CMOS chip and is prone to rolling shutter issues like skew and wobble when there's lots of camera movement.</p> <p>Again, the point is decide what type of gig you will do the most and get the camera that fills the bill. Don't expect any camera do be everything to everyone.  That's why I own 3 different cameras.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-36260 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:37:47 +0000 robgrauert 36260@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I'd get the Sony EX1. It's more than 5 grand though. It's got full HD resolution. It also has 1/2' CMOS sensors. I dunno if mvansomeren is right about the XHG1 though. I don't believe HDV captures a full HD resolution. Only 1440x1080. I've never outputted through SDI though. But then again, are the 1/3' CCD even big enough to capture a 1920x1080 resolution? I thought the chips had to be at least 1/2'', hence the Sony EX1 which does record the full HD resolution and I think the only camera in it's class that does.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-36259 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:05:46 +0000 mvansomeren 36259@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If you're getting the HVX you better have a lot more than $5,000 to spend.  P2 cards aren't cheap and don't hold a lot of video.  If you're shooting events or indie films you'll probably need a PC or laptop to offload your video too.  HVX may not be the best choice for gigs like Weddings, Sports events, etc. primarily because of the P2 cards necessary for HD.</p> <p>for $5,000 I would personally go with the Canon XHG1.  You can record HDV onto tape for those longer events and when you want full 1920x1080 uncompressed video, you can output to a computer through the SDI connection.  </p> <p>The answer lies in what type of gigs you will do the most of.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/need-help-picking-pro-hd-camera#post-36252 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:04:15 +0000 splash 36252@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Now that I know where I’m getting my new camera from (B&amp;H). All I need to decide is what camera I should get. I’m leaning toward the new Panasonic HVX-200A. My question is this….Which $5000.00 HD camera will open the most possible gigs for me? Which camera will limit possible jobs? Which camera would you buy and why? Thanks again! </p>