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Videomaker Community » Tag: still - Recent Posts http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Community » Tag: still - Recent Posts en Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:19:14 +0000 composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49503 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:42:24 +0000 composite1 49503@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ TD, Thanks for the head's up about the Rebel T1i. I'll keep an eye out for it. TDedmonSBP on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49500 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:24:40 +0000 TDedmonSBP 49500@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Canon are sneaky buggers. Under our noses and in the midst of our talking about the 5D MKII they released the Rebel T1i (500D as it's known to other countries). I know what your thinking, "EOS Rebel?" YES whereas the 5D is a medium format full-framed camera. The new one fills in the step below as an entry level body or small-format camera. It still takes full 1080 but only at 3K, but really a 2K res difference isn't a deal killer considering this comes in at MSRP $899. Was doing some research and found this puppy so I thought I would throw it around. <a href="http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=18385#ModelFeaturesAct" rel="nofollow">http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=18385#ModelFeaturesAct</a> <a href="http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_EOS_500D_Digital_Rebel_T1i/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_EOS_500D_Digital_Rebel_T1i/</a> TDedmonSBP on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49430 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:58:20 +0000 TDedmonSBP 49430@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Yeah my main reason for being a nikon guy is that I like the way they feel in my hand better. Not a real technical reason but it worked for me since I was in the entry level of cams and the quality for price was about the same. Recently I was playing with the new EOS Rebel (whichever is the step just below the 50D) and I really like the menu system on it much more than mine so I think the 5D would suit me well since it's getting on into the medium format cams. I actually got to handle one a few weeks ago and really liked the weight of it. I certainly understand the cost point. As I'm sure is true with you as well, being a business owner in this industry really makes you feel in it the pocket. composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49389 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:43:09 +0000 composite1 49389@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ TD, Funny about you being a 'Nikon Guy'. I started my career as a photographer with old-school Canon all manual rigs. Later when working as a phojo, I used higher-end Nikons. Now, I personally owned Canon EOS series cameras since they came out because I could not afford a Nikon at the time. It didn't take long to recognize that Canon made some 'effin' great rigs and I didn't have to cough up a lung to pay for one. Still liked shooting with the Nikon's though. Once I started my biz, I just rolled with the Canon's. Yeah, the Zacuto's are a bit on the 'Transformer' side of looks. I do like how modular they are though, but you're right the RDM's are just as good and cheaper. I tell you, I love this business but when you get to a certain level it just gets more and more expensive to 'play in'. TDedmonSBP on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49386 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:02:53 +0000 TDedmonSBP 49386@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Yeah I'm going to have to get clear as well. I'm going to pick up a Redrock system because of the price, they seem really solid, and I think the Zacuto's are a little on the ugly side. My biggest decision will be in lens selection, I have always been a Nikon guy so all of my lenses (2 ha ha) have the wrong mounting system. I think it would be fun to pick up a lensbaby system to play with knowing it could be used for still or video. composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49384 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:49:32 +0000 composite1 49384@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ TD, Glad you've enjoyed the thread. Much as I love the VM forums, most times they offer little advanced info for the intermediate and above level participants. Anytime I can pitch a bone out there for you guys to gnaw on I feel like I've done my job. Good to hear about you getting the new rig. Unfortunately, I've got so much backlogged work I can't even think about picking up any new gear right now. However, just like you I've made up my mind to pick up a pair of MkII's once I get clear. With the firmware updates and support gear out now, it really looks like a solid choice for the serious filmmaker and still shooter. I've had a chance to play with one briefly and really don't recommend it for the casual shooter. My only conundrum is which camera support to get, the redrock or zacuto? Redrock = solid build, modular, light, slightly cheaper full kit. Zacuto, solid build, crazy modular, light, somewhat pricey with or w/o add-ons. Good luck with your purchases. I hope to get your thoughts in the thread. TDedmonSBP on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49356 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:38:14 +0000 TDedmonSBP 49356@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hey Composite, After a long time looking at this guy I thin I have made the decision to pick one of these up. Within the next couple months I hope to get the body and two lenses plus some extra batteries and one of the shoulder shooters from red rock micro. This has been one of my favorite threads. composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49344 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:17:52 +0000 composite1 49344@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Norman, Glad you found something that works for you. I took a look at the unit and for me it would make a nice 'crashcam' something I could get good imagery from, but wouldn't get bent if it got blown up. I don't know how comfy I am with a solid-state crashcam as the recording media is a touch pricey. Should the media be robust enough I could roll with it. I'm not sure if it's on this thread or the 'Advanced Info' one but I do believe I put a video from Zacuto on about a shoulder mount for the class of cameras you have. You might want to check that out. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-49299 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:07:07 +0000 NormanWillis 49299@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Comp. I got a Canon HF S10, and love it. It has way more features, and takes a much nicer picture than my FX1 ever did. Also, I like the tapeless workflow. Just be sure to back it up to three different places (and I also started an online backup offsite, although the upload times move at a crawl) before you erase the SDHC card. Interestingly, I just discovered that my particular camera begins a new clip at just under the 2GB (approximately ten minute) mark. I believe it is a defect, as Canon said it should be able to take up to a 2TB clip in one contiguous shoot, were there 2TB SDHC cards (which, of course there are not). I discovered the defect when I went to lay down a few takes of a narration track that was about twelve or thirteen minutes long. The first file is 1.99x GB long, and then the second clips are for the balance of each take. I am not sure how this compares to an EOS 5D Mk II, but I am able just to take these clips and then butt them up to each other in the timeline, and they match up without problems. If the EOS 5D Mk II is this way, then the 12 minute limit would not be a real problem, so long as it continues to capture (as the HF S10 does). I am writing both Canon and B&H, to see how this will get resolved, because while I can work around it, it should not be happening this way. B&H has a fifteen day return policy (which I am almost two weeks over), but we will see what they do when I call them on the phone. I did get an extended warranty, but cannot afford to be without a camera for any extended length of time right now, as I am shooting often. Anyhow, I just thought you might find that interesting. I hope all is well with you. Norman composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48350 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:01:10 +0000 composite1 48350@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ For anyone who wanted to see side by side comparisons of the Mk II vs other cameras like the RED ONE, EX3 and the XH1A just to name a few, watch 'The Great Shootout' video in the 'Advanced Info' thread. I was going to put it into this thread, but felt the discussion in the video went beyond the basic info most of the novice to intermediate shooters on the forum are looking for. Also, if you are wanting to get some insight about financing your projects and distributing your final product check out the 'Film Fellas' videos in the 'Writing on Spec' thread. Truthfully, all of this stuff is related and if you're doing this stuff for a living you really should take a look at it. Keep shooting. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48306 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:40:28 +0000 NormanWillis 48306@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Comp, >>What I would like to see are some side-by-side comparisons of footage shot by those productions using both the RED ONE and the Mk II. I'd also like to see their workflow incorporating the two different file formats and what post-production support gear they use to make it all work. I would also like to see that. Norman composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48289 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:32:57 +0000 composite1 48289@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Well if you are still trying to find excuses not to take a look at the 5D Mk II as a serious camera rig for video check out Cfulton's latest news on the freeware updates that allow for manual audio control, audio level meters, zebras and more. In the meantime, I've mentioned mounting rigs from Redrock Micro and now take a look at some of the modular mounts available from Zacuto. <a href="http://vimeo.com/4044623">Introducing the DSLR Gunstock Shooters</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/zacuto">Steve Weiss, Zacuto USA</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>. composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48218 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:12:51 +0000 composite1 48218@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ "What are the technical advantages and disadvantages of 1K uncompressed versus 5K compressed? " Norman, Yeah, that one's definitely for the 'Advanced Info' Thread. As far as 'staying ahead', with a 5k cam onboard you'll be ahead of the game for some time. The problem with uncompressed HD video is Storage. The compressed files on the flash cards are huge as is. The good news is multi TB drive prices are dropping quickly as storage technology moves further toward solid-state. What I would like to see are some side-by-side comparisons of footage shot by those productions using both the RED ONE and the Mk II. I'd also like to see their workflow incorporating the two different file formats and what post-production support gear they use to make it all work. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48176 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:40:14 +0000 NormanWillis 48176@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Comp. I am a little confused about something, and am not sure whether to ask this thread here, or on 'advanced info.' Am I correct that 1920 x 1080p is full HD spec, and that it is also 1K? Because the 1K refers to the number of horizontal lines? So 5K would refer to a spec something like 9600 x 5400? And that would be 'full frame'? Or does 'full frame' refer to something else? Now since the EOS 5D Mk II nonetheless compresses the picture to store it on Compact Flash cards, how does that compare to a 1K live capture, say via HDMI or SDI out, to a video capture card like an AJA or an Intensity Pro? Since the HDMI out is not compressed, how do the two images technically compare in terms of vibrancy, color, contrast, and all that? I watched the MacVideo vid again (twice) and I cannot tell anything negative about the picture from the EOS 5D Mk II. When I watch Henry Olonga's work, I do see some jaggies when he first begins the capture, which he says happens because it takes Cineform NeoHD about two seconds to figure out what is happening; but then the jaggies disappear, and he also acknowledges the reason they make it into his samples on Vimeo is just due to sloppy editing (i.e., that he should cut them out). I know the technology advances all the time (e.g., the EOS 5D Mk II and this thread), and so I want always to be improving my game. However, I think that until hologram technology comes out (which won't be forever), probably the most I need to worry about with my end product is mebbe a 72" LCD home theatre system (or equivalent). I know they plan to raise the bar to 2K in 2015, and I am just imagining that it will get raised to 4K some time around 2020 (but that is a total guess). Basically I do not want to have to redo my stuff, but I don't think home theatre is going to get much bigger than a six foot screen. What are the technical advantages and disadvantages of 1K uncompressed versus 5K compressed? (I hesitate even to think about 5K uncompressed. Mind boggling.) And regardless of the advantages/disadvantages, am I going to get the quality I need for a 72" LCD screen, so I don't have to 're-do' stuff every few years as they raise the bar? As always, your experience and knowledge is appreciated. Norman composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48156 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:33:09 +0000 composite1 48156@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ By now many of you have seen the video by Vincent Laforet using the Mk II. His short video literally awoke the industry to the Mk II's potential for high-end film & television production. This is a prime example of 'not waiting' to get gear or learn the workflow. This guy was a photographer not a videographer or cinematographer! Yet, he literally established the basic shooting techniques and workflow from location to post. Now everone interested in this is playing catch-up. Already, Canon has worked out the auto-manual exposure bug with a new firmware update. It won't be long before the 12 minute buffer limit goes away too. This video was shot and edited in 72 hours and it set the industry on its ear. Vincent Laforet is now considered a Digital Cinematographer and has been doing video productions using the Mk II since. Something to think about. In the meantime, enjoy the video. <a href="http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2326">http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2326</a> NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48115 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:22:10 +0000 NormanWillis 48115@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Comp. Reply from Canon. >>Dear Norman Willis: Thank you for your reply. The 5D Mark II can only record up to 12 minutes or 4GB of 1920 x 1080 video at a time. At 640x480 you can record up to 24 minutes. If you need to record longer, we recommend a dedicated camcorder. We hope this helps. Please write to us again if you have any questions. Sincerely, Erik I wrote him back and asked him if they knew the timeframe for an EOS 5D or equivalent camcorder that had interchangeable lenses, but which does not have the 12 minute limitation. However, I will be surprised if he will be able to release that information, if he even knows it. I can probably forestall my purchase about two months, max, before I will have to move. But we will see, as I am historically a terrible judge of time. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48107 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:53:13 +0000 NormanWillis 48107@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>Also, I don't think this part of the discussion is 'hijacking the thread'. Since we are discussing the potential of the Mk II issues concerning support gear is integral to helping those interested in making their decisions. Well I'm glad to hear that. I think the EOS is a fine piece of gear. It is just that right now either I can begin editing in earnest, or I can keep writing, and simultaneously learning the NLE. It is all the same from my point of view. However, what changes the equation for me is the likelihood that someone might release some new piece of gear in the next month or two that might be vastly superior to my proposed HF S10 rig. If they release an EOS 5D Mk III without the 12 minute limit, then that would be a superior way to go. I do have some shooting I need to do next week, but I can do that in SD with the Canon GL2...so since I do not need to move yet, I would like to see if the EOS comes available without the 12 minute limit, because that would really be one sweet piece of gear. composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48104 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:56:28 +0000 composite1 48104@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ "My rich friend in Minnesota/Florida (he has two houses) has been talking to me about how to buy tech. He says to research, research, research; and to forestall purchases as long as you possibly can. Then when (and only when) it is time, get just what you need (without gold plating)." Norman, As you've unknowingly surmised, your friend is 'right' and 'wrong'. Definitely do your research. I've harped on that enough in other discussions so I won't do so here. These days though as you said, 'the tech changes so rapidly' (to paraphrase) the problem with waiting is you get left behind. Everyone who gets the gear up front gets a leg up on the workflow and they have work going out in a current fashion. Though it is prudent to wait, you have to choose wisely on what you wait for. Now, you'll never be able to 'catch up', but if you are marketing yourself in a competitive region, being current often helps make the sale. Now, your friend is also right about not getting 'the gold plated stuff'. Bells and whistles are just that. However, you do want the best gear you can afford outfitted with what you need to get the job done. Also, I don't think this part of the discussion is 'hijacking the thread'. Since we are discussing the potential of the Mk II issues concerning support gear is integral to helping those interested in making their decisions. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone/page/2#post-48081 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:14:23 +0000 NormanWillis 48081@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ OK, I don't want to hijack this thread, so let me make one more post on the cables, and then leave it. Apparently there is some signal degradation below 1080p at HDMI v1.3 after about a 30' run, even with a top quality 'normal' cable. However, Gefen is a top reputable dealer sells a special 'HDMI Super Booster Cable' up to 150'. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dcable.jsp?prod_id=5736">http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dcable.jsp?prod_id=5736</a> These 'Super Booster Cables' are a wee bit expensive ($280.00 for a 50', and $420 for a 100'); and it seems that even with these 'Super Booster Cables' about the maximum run for 1080p at HDMI 1.3 is still about 100'. Quote "Only cables up to 100' will support HDMI 1.3 at 1080p." Quote "The 125 and 150 foot cables will support HDMI 1.2 at 1080p." It looks like I could get a 100' run without appreciable loss. The cable is $420.00, and I would still need a $200.00 Intensity Pro card, plus I would have to lug my workstation around (and be tied to power). This is fairly limiting as compared to a nanoFlash (or even one of Henry Olonga's laptop capture rigs); but it is definitely a whole lot cheaper than a Nanoflash (or one of Henry's laptop capture rigs), plus there is no backorder on them. Again I am left with the desire to forestall the purchase, and see what new breaks loose in the field. If Canon were to come out with an EOS 6D or even an EOS 5D Mk III that no longer has the 12 minute limit that would 'change the picture' for me again (no pun intended). I am still in the 'training DVD and learning' mode for the next few weeks, so I think I am going to try to forestall this purchase as long as I can, and see what breaks loose. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48076 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:34:05 +0000 NormanWillis 48076@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Here's Tiger Direct's sales pitch: >>Dear Valued Customer: Thank you for your email, We do understand your concern, according to our research the signal loss would depend on the material used in the HDMI cable, although the recommended length is 30 ft, you will still be able to achieve good HDMI signals in cable 100 ft or longer. one example of which is the Ultra 500HI 10.2Gbps 100-Foot 1080p HDMI Male/Male HDTV Cable (Item Number: ULT40263) I guess if I don't have money for the nanoFlash I could try a short cable and a long one. Get the rig to work on the short one. Then try the long one, and see if it works: but it probably will, or else why does a reputable company like Ultra sell them? Norman NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48074 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:25:33 +0000 NormanWillis 48074@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ My rich friend in Minnesota/Florida (he has two houses) has been talking to me about how to buy tech. He says to research, research, research; and to forestall purchases as long as you possibly can. Then when (and only when) it is time, get just what you need (without gold plating). I thought that was nuts, but then the more I learn about this fast-changing world of computer and video technology, the more I realize that things change so fast there is just no way to keep up with the technology. So if I had to buy today, in my shoes (not having to be mobile, but needing longer unattended record times) I would probably go for my little 'pocket' HF S10 and a BMD Intensity Pro; and then save my money for a new hybrid camera that will probably be out in no more than a year. But if I were in your shoes I might do something different. I dunno. But if you ask me, unless you need that camera now, wait just a little while, and the whole landscape will change. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48073 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:19:36 +0000 NormanWillis 48073@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ >>A 158m HDMI cable huh? Wonder how much that would run at Markertek? I dunno, but you can get a 100 foot cable at TD for $150.00. >>Personally, I don't think they really know for sure yet. Either way, I think that with the nanoFlash unit or some similar portable storage device will set the Mk II into the heavyweight film making class. Productions are already ramping up with the Mk II in mind and gives me further motive to not consider this camera for 'journeyman' work. Well, it is obviously the real deal, or else why are they going 50-50 with the RED ONE? I am just weighing my options, and considering the fact that Canon is probably going to come out with the first true 'hybrid' camera in about a year. If I can use my little pocket HF S10 until that time for the cost of a 200 dollar card and a 150 dollar cable, I think I should pocket the difference, and save it towards either my next camera, or my next NLE (like on the other thread). 'dyu know whats I mean? But now I really dunno about that tech support. He wrote back (I think the same guy) to a different question, and said I might be able to go 100 feet, with a good booster: >>Dear Nazarene Israel: We appreciate your continued correspondence regarding HDMI cable. The 15 meter length I quoted earlier is approximately 50 feet. Please keep in mind these are estimates. The maximum length of cable you can use is affected by things such as cable quality, number and quality of connections among other things. You should be able to go up to 100 feet with a good quality booster, however, we don't have information on how this is performed. Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance with your EOS 5D Mark II. Thank you for choosing Canon. Sincerely, Richard Technical Support Representative So is this two guys in two bodies? or two guys in one body? (lol) composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48071 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:08:54 +0000 composite1 48071@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ "... sounds like there is a 12 minute limit regardless of the destination." Norman, Sounds odd, but if when in the live mode the data coming in from the CMOS chip isn't 'free flowing' like with a CCD chip, there may be a buffer issue. I'm thinking there may be a heat issue as I believe may have been mentioned in the video review. Personally, I don't think they really know for sure yet. Either way, I think that with the nanoFlash unit or some similar portable storage device will set the Mk II into the heavyweight film making class. Productions are already ramping up with the Mk II in mind and gives me further motive to not consider this camera for 'journeyman' work. A 158m HDMI cable huh? Wonder how much that would run at Markertek? NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48066 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:18:19 +0000 NormanWillis 48066@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Here is my query to Canon: INQUIRY: On the Canon EOS 5D Mk2 camera, does the 12 minute clip limitation also limit live HDMI out? Or does it only apply to the recordings to compact flash cards? In other words, can I record continuously with the EOS 5D via the HDMI out if I have either an HDMI capture card, or an external flash memory card? Also, what is the maximum HDMI cable length I could use between the camera and the capture card, before there was any appreciable 1080/30p signal degradation? Here is Canon's response. >>Dear Nazarene Israel: Thank you for writing to us. We value you as a Canon customer and appreciate the opportunity to assist you. The 12 minute limit is imposed by the buffer (filling up), not the memory card or HDMI out. You should be able to use an HDMI cable of up to 158 meters before you have to boost the signal. Please let us know if we can be of any further assistance with your EOS 5D. Thank you for choosing Canon. Sincerely, Richard Technical Support Representative That sounds like there is a 12 minute limit regardless of the destination. I wrote him back to confirm. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48054 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:20:03 +0000 NormanWillis 48054@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hi Comp. >>Actually, looks to be the perfect solution to the 12 minute clip limit of the Mk II as you can go live through its HDMI out into the nanoFlash. If you can use the the nano's HDMI out as a pass-through to a monitor and still capture look out! Look out, indeed. Yes, this just occurred to me as well. I think I will write Canon, and see if one could bypass the 12-minute clip thing with the nanoFlash, or with the BMD Intensity Pro. If so, then the EOS might be a much better choice! composite1 on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48053 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:45:02 +0000 composite1 48053@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ TD, I actually looked at the Nikon D90 first as it's 720p HD format would precisely compliment our JVC 200UB's. However, we already have Canon EOS DSLR's in our inventory and would need only pick up a couple more lenses and batteries. Now that it's no problem to downres from 1080p to 720p the higher pixel value isn't a problem. Also, despite my respect for the Nikon line the Mk II is just a better camera. Either brand however has started something new. Norman, Thanks for the info on the nanoFlash. That looks like it would augment the recording capabilities of any camera capable of interfacing with it. Actually, looks to be the perfect solution to the 12 minute clip limit of the Mk II as you can go live through its HDMI out into the nanoFlash. If you can use the the nano's HDMI out as a pass-through to a monitor and still capture look out! Inspite of this, I still think using 2-5k for depositions or meetings that are not intended for inclusion for a broadcast or theatrical release production is overkill. And you are correct, the Mk II is the 'poorman's RED!' Provided the nanoFlash does what it says it can, then the Mk II will literally be in the same weight-class with a $50,000+ RED ONE camera system. NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48043 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:41:46 +0000 NormanWillis 48043@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Yeah, I'm locked on a minimum of 1080p. I understand that the EOS 5D is now used as a replacement for the $50K+ RED ONE camera in some applications. I imagine that saying $47,000.00 per camera might cause quite a stir. TDedmonSBP on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48040 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:19:34 +0000 TDedmonSBP 48040@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Why hasn't there been any buzz over the Nikon D90 or D5000? Each shoot video, granted it is as 720p rather than 1080, but I would think the name Nikon would make up for that in terms of people talking about them. Obviously, they are almost half the pixelage, but I would think by being first to the game I would have heard more about it. Perhaps Canon just did it better, and this time that mattered. In case you aren't familiar: <a href="http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d90/index.htm">http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d90/index.htm</a> <a href="http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d5000/index.htm">http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d5000/index.htm</a> NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48039 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:02:40 +0000 NormanWillis 48039@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Another option for those who want to go uncompressed/4-5K: Convergent Designs is coming out with a new NanoFlash recorder.Â The thing captures HDMI and HD-SDI in, and reads out to inexpensive compact flash cards.Â The specs on this thing are amazing. Selectable Quality / Record Rates <ul> I-Frame Only: 160 Mbps 4:2:2 I-Frame Full-Raster; 1.24 GB/Min Master Quality - Long GOP: 100 Mbps 4:2:2 Long-GOP Full-Raster; 0.8 GB/Min Broadcast TV Mode: 50 Mbps 4:2:2 Long-GOP Full-Raster; 0.4 GB/Min Proxy Mode: 19 Mbps 4:2:0 Long-GOP 1440x1080; 0.15 GB/Min </ul> <a href="http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_Products_nanoFlash.htm">http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_Products_nanoFlash.htm</a> They want about $3,000.00 for it, but just strap it to your camcorder, and hook up the HDMI out to the HDMI in, then you can get incredible quality, and are really mobile; and you can take as long of clips as you need. If 12 minutes is not a limitation for you (as it is for me) then the EOS 5D might be a superior way to go, because of the superb quality of the optics. It is just another option. Norman NormanWillis on "5k Anyone?" http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/5k-anyone#post-48038 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:58:35 +0000 NormanWillis 48038@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Hey Trae, I'm cool with people having different opinions, and different needs. It's not a problem with me. I just sold and shipped both my HDV cameras. I still have a really nice Canon GL2 with an XLR adapter and a DM-50 shotgun microphone, along with a hard case and about 35 tapes, if anyone is interested. It is a great deal, and I plan to list it on Ebay today. I am looking to purchase the Canon HF S10 today. It works off of SDHC cards, if one wants AVCHD. However, what I want is not AVCHD, but uncompressed live capture. I am not worried about start/stop issues at all. I can start and stop; that does not bother me. What bothers me is then I have a two hour interview with someone, and I need things broadcast quality, and it shuts down after about 12 minutes. That would mess me up bigtime. Norman