http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Forums Tag: vegas en Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:17:22 +0000 http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41550 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:11:21 +0000 birdcat 41550@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>There are many DVD (not only BluRay) players that will "upconvert" a standard (4.7 or 9GB disc) to play in a simulated HD on HD televisions.  They are not really playing in full HD.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41548 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:08:44 +0000 jrcromwell 41548@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote><p>Simply put, you cannot burn 1920 X 1080 to regular DVD - To do that you need a BluRay Disc burner or (shudder) HD/DVD burner.  DVD's are only capable of playing at 720 X 480 @ 29.97 FPS (in the US at least - NTSC). You can however keep the aspect ratio and burn it as a NTSC widescreen (16:9) DVD -Just select this as your output from Vegas when rendering and burn. EDIT - Many standard DVD players are capable of upconverting to HD now.</p></blockquote> <p>Something seems amiss here, perhaps it is the term "regular DVD."  Do you mean using the "DVD format" or the "4.7 Gb disk" ?  Based on my web research (not my experience), it appears that AVCHD video can be written to a 4.7 Gb disk using programs like Roxio Toast 9, and that these "AVCHD disks" can be played in hi-def on some players like the PSP3.  It is being widely touted as a cheaper process than burning to expensive blu-ray disks using expensive blu-ray burners (assuming you already have a Sony PSP3).    ???</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41510 Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:36:40 +0000 sarkyfooker 41510@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>No problem,experiences are made to be shared :).I can only tell you the PAL side of the story though...</p> <p>If it can help I got my one from Adorama for 1049 $ it was delivered to the other side of the Atlantic 7 days after the order.There´s no price for the NTSC model on their website though.I would upgrade to something more if it´s a desktop.I´ll do some research but I think that a Quad core with 4 GB Ram should handle the AVCHD files quite well.I´ll let you know if I find out anything worth sharing.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41485 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:30:33 +0000 bizzy 41485@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>thanks sarky...we are kind of on the same line. I already have vegas pro 8, and a core 2 duo desktop. I need to up the RAM from 1 to 2 GB though. My main issue here is PAL camcorders are a little bit costly (upto 300 dollars more) compared to the NTSC models. Thats why I have to be sure whether theres much of a difference.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41476 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:24:32 +0000 sarkyfooker 41476@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> That would be PAL. MAKE SURE that you´ve got software that can handle the .M2ts files.Obviously Sony Vegas does,as well as Premiere CS4,to my knowledge all the others still don´t. You also need a powerful machine,I´m using a core 2 duo with 2GHZ and 2 GB ram,and it struggles quite a bit,but it´s a laptop.Still loving the camera,just shot a small promo video for a gym with it.It´s not outstanding in low light...</p> <p>Hope I´ve been of some help,now go out and buy it !!!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41464 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:29:45 +0000 bizzy 41464@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>hi sarkyfooker,which one records in 720x576 mode,NTSC or PAL?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41441 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:25:24 +0000 sarkyfooker 41441@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi Bizzy,</p> <p>I just went through the same questions myself...I´ve bought an SR11 PAL system,and after some testing,solved the problem as described above by birdcat,the only difference is that it would be 720x576 @25 Fps, as far as I understand that´s the difference between PAL and NTSC.Anyway I would strongly reccomend the camera,I bought it for underwater use mainly,and I´m amazed at the definition,plus many controls can be assigned to a sort of custombuttom/wheel and it allows for some manual control.The high speed slow motion feature is also quite impressive.A buy I don´t regret at all...good luck!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/minidv-quality-to-dvd#post-41402 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:07:26 +0000 Coreece 41402@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Also,  what format is your miniDV footage. ( ex. AVI, MOV)</p> <p>You want to make sure you have the best possibly quality prior to encoding DVD.  If your video was compressed or converted to a lossy format somehow during the editing process, it will not look pretty once that file is finally compressed to Mpeg 2 DVD.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/minidv-quality-to-dvd#post-41400 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:50:39 +0000 Coreece 41400@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>There will always be some quality loss when encoding for DVD. (even if you can't notice it)</p> <p>DVD footage needs to be mpeg2 which is a lossy format, but it shouldn't look bad if its encoded properly.</p> <p>The three general formats are:</p> <p>1 PASS CBR:</p> <p>This is for shorter videos that have a minimal amount of fast action movements and/or pans This is the faster method of encoding and will render a larger file.typically the best bit rate will be 8mbps, but 7mbps is good too.  You can go higher but this is not recommended because it may be to fast for some DVD players. </p> <p>1 PASS VBR</p> <p>This setting may not be available with many encoders and really isn't necessary, but it would typically be used with longer videos with a minimal amount of fast movement.</p> <p>2 pass VBR</p> <p>This is used for longer videos that include fast action movement.  It will analylze the video in the first pass and than encode a higher bit rate for parts of the video that have fast action and lower bitrates in the areas that have less movement.  This format maximizes quality while maintaing a smaller file size.  The bitrate will depend on how long your video is.   In variable bitrate encoding, there are 3 settings:</p> <p>    - Average Bitrate - Maximum Bit Rate  - Minimum Bitrate</p> <p>The range between 6.5 -8.0 mbps will render better quality, however, if you video is over 90 minutes, you'll have to use a lower range.</p> <p>I have noticed that motion graphics and animated backgrounds seem to be more affected by DVD compression, so if this describes your video, expect there to me some undesireable effects.  There really is not too much you can do...DVD compression was great for awhile, especially when there were only tube TVs.  The moitors today are very detailed and show off all the imperfections.  </p> <p>If you have a Good HD monitor, you'll notice that any Hollywood Blockester on DVD has some artifacts in the motion graphic intros...and in some cases, it's really bad...including text.  You'll also notice some artifacts in the darker scenes of the movie as well.  But sometimes, you really can't tell unless you're looking for it.</p> <p>It also may help to do a search for a good Bit Rate calculator.  This may make it a little easier for you to determine the settings for VBR.  If you don't like the quality using the settings that the bit rate calculator gave you, try using a higher rate if you video didn't max out the space on the DVD.</p> <p>Regards,</p> <p>Corey</p> <p>Its not necessary to know this, but you may see settings for GOP(groups of pictures).  You can usually keep this at the default setting.  GOP is the compression technique that gives DVD compression its lossy characteristic.  Thaey consist of I-frames B-frames and P-frames.</p> <p>I found this following explanation from wikipedia to be rather humorous the fist time I read it:</p> <p>MPEG-2 specifies that the raw frames be compressed into three kinds of frames: intra-coded frames (<a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/I-frame">I-frame</a>), predictive-coded frames (<a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/I-frame">P-frames</a>), and bidirectionally-predictive-coded frames (<a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/I-frame">B-frames</a>).</p> <p>An <a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/I-frame">I-frame</a> is a compressed version of a single uncompressed (raw) frame. It takes advantage of spatial redundancy and of the inability of the eye to detect certain changes in the image. Unlike P-frames and B-frames, I-frames do not depend on data in the preceding or the following frames. Briefly, the raw frame is divided into 8 pixel by 8 pixel blocks. The data in each block is transformed by a <a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/Discrete_cosine_transform">discrete cosine transform</a>. The result is an 8 by 8 matrix of coefficients. The transform converts spatial variations into frequency variations, but it does not change the information in the block; the original block can be recreated exactly by applying the inverse cosine transform. The advantage of doing this is that the image can now be simplified by <a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/Quantization_(image_processing)">quantizing</a> the coefficients. Many of the coefficients, usually the higher frequency components, will then be zero. The penalty of this step is the loss of some subtle distinctions in brightness and color. If one applies the inverse transform to the matrix after it is quantized, one gets an image that looks very similar to the original image but that is not quite as nuanced. Next, the quantized coefficient matrix is itself compressed. Typically, one corner of the quantized matrix is filled with zeros. By starting in the opposite corner of the matrix, then zigzagging through the matrix to combine the coefficients into a string, then substituting <a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/Run-length_encoding">run-length codes</a> for consecutive zeros in that string, and then applying <a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/Huffman_coding">Huffman coding</a> to that result, one reduces the matrix to a smaller array of numbers. It is this array that is broadcast or that is put on DVDs. In the receiver or the player, the whole process is reversed, enabling the receiver to reconstruct, to a close approximation, the original frame.</p> <p>Typically, every 15th frame or so is made into an I-frame. P-frames and B-frames might follow an I-frame like this, IBBPBBPBBPBB(I), to form a <a href="http://videomaker.com/wiki/Group_of_pictures">Group Of Pictures (GOP)</a>; however, the standard is flexible about this.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/minidv-quality-to-dvd#post-41393 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:04:27 +0000 robgrauert 41393@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote><p> Is the quality of a consumer miniDV camcorder going to look bad when burned to a DVD?</p></blockquote> <p>No. Just compress it properly. You may not even really have to compress it if your video is less than 4.7GB.</p> <p> </p> <blockquote><p> What are the best settings to render the miniDV video footage and burn it to DVD and have the greatest possible quality?....</p></blockquote> <blockquote><p> </blockquote> I just render it as DV/DVCPro NTSC.   </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/minidv-quality-to-dvd#post-41380 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:41:20 +0000 RockstarRider 41380@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Is the quality of a consumer miniDV camcorder going to look bad when burned to a DVD?.......</p> <p>What are the best settings to render the miniDV video footage and burn it to DVD and have the greatest possible quality?....</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/magic-bullet-plug-in#post-41351 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:53:47 +0000 Ken 41351@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> A few years ago, Sony had been including a small set of Magic Bullet plug-in effects. I remember that an "old film" effect was one of them.  Just now I looked at my version 8, and don't see any mention of Magic Bullet. But I do see many plug-ins, incuding one for "old film". Maybe Sony decided they have enough Sony plug-ins, and no longer need Magic Bullet plug-ins. (Just my guess.)</p> <p>Ken Hull</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/magic-bullet-plug-in#post-41336 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:45:57 +0000 RockstarRider 41336@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>well i heard that you could get it...</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/magic-bullet-plug-in#post-41332 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:17:17 +0000 robgrauert 41332@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> oh my. I'm gonna tell on you. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/magic-bullet-plug-in#post-41328 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:46:56 +0000 RockstarRider 41328@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Is there somewhere where i can get the magic bullet plug-in for vegas pro 8 for free...????</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41289 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:32:47 +0000 birdcat 41289@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Sorry Bizzy - Maybe someone else can step in here - I don't know how the PAL version of the SR11 would handle non-HD footage.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41265 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:01:50 +0000 bizzy 41265@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Could i face problems in buying HDR S11 instead of HDR S11e which has PAL as the analog video format? I am not in the US where NTSC is the standard but having seen a conversion feature in some softwares,is it a gud idea to go for HDR S11?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41179 Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:07:19 +0000 birdcat 41179@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <blockquote> <p>Am new here and want to buy the Sony HDR S11 coz of its full HD capabilities. (hope am right on that). birdcat,does that mean I wont be able to burn on regular DVD coz thats what I intend to use?</p> </blockquote> <p>You will not be able to burn anything more than 720 X 480 (SD for DVD) onto a standard video DVD - You could always put a HD video on a data DVD and play it on a computer (but remember you are limited by size 4.7 GB or 9 GB). If you want a true high def video disc, you have two options currently - BluRay or HD DVD (which is obsolete now but I'm sure you can still get burners &amp; players but why would you want to?).</p> <p>However, there is nothing to stop you from burning 16:9 SD standard DVD's from any source you'd like, including full HD (1920 X 1080).  I do this all the time - my NLE (Vegas Pro 8) converts it on the fly and I burn a standard def DVD from HD source just like I do for SD source.</p> <p>Hope this answers your question.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/avchd-full-hd-dvd-help#post-41178 Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:06:30 +0000 bizzy 41178@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Am new here and want to buy the Sony HDR S11 coz of its full HD capabilities. (hope am right on that). birdcat,does that mean I wont be able to burn on regular DVD coz thats what I intend to use?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/output-format#post-40422 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:39:43 +0000 chrisColorado 40422@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>1. THE BEST FORMAT FOR DVD IS MPEG-2!! In order to have a DVD, you will have to render to MPEG-2 out of Vegas. This is not the best format overall, but it's the only one that works for DVD.</p> <p>2. Windows Media Player and Quicktime can't play MPEG-2 in my experience. Only Real Player. You will have to trust that it works unless you get Real, which I think is free anyway.</p> <p>3. IMPORTANT! If you render MPEG-2 straight out of Vegas, the default option is Video only, so if you're not careful, your video will be just that - video, NO audio. You will need to choose the "DVD NTSC" template, not the "DVD NTSC Video stream" template. This would explain why there's no audio in KMPlayer (which I have never used.)</p> <p>4. DVD Architect is the only DVD burner software I've ever used. Works great!</p> <p>Good luck!</p> <p> Chris.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/output-format#post-40375 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:33:09 +0000 shippocaio 40375@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> oh...i just found out that i am supposed to export the audio and video separated.... duhhh  ;)</p> <p>But i am still confused about the best format? any help? </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/output-format#post-40373 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:26:17 +0000 shippocaio 40373@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I used Windows media player..everything is back...i used quicktime....everything is black...i used a program called  KMplayer (It Plays EVERYTHING you can think of)...there is no sound.!</p> <p>Ps.: which format has better quality?</p> <p>WMA?<br />MOV?<br />MPEG?<br />AVI? </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/output-format#post-40372 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:15:13 +0000 jerronsmith 40372@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>What program did you use to play it back with on your computer?</p> <p>Some programs can't play back the MPEG 2 file, even though it is in fact there.</p> <p>If you are going to burn a DVD it has to eventually be converted to an MPEG-2 file. However not all programs that can render out an MPEG-2 file are very good at it.  Sometimes it is better to render out a high quality AVI or Mov file and let your DVD authoring program do the conversion.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/output-format#post-40369 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:29:34 +0000 shippocaio 40369@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Dear Videomaker's fellows,</p> <p>I am doing a video for my ELA class about Global Pollution. I am halfway done, so today i rendered the video to MPEG-2 (I am going to put on a dvd and play on the pc that is connected in the tv). To make the Menu, i am going to use the  Windows DVD Creator, becausei dont know how to use the dvd archictec very well. Vegas rendered it and after some minutes to check how the video was going to really look like in a tv.</p> <p>when i played back the file in my pc (Before burning the DVD), there wasnt any sound nor video on it! Can someone help me?</p> <p>And i want the highest quality possible... so which format is better? AVI? WMA? MOV? MPEG?</p> <p>thanks 4 all the help,<br /> --------------------------------------<br /> Caio</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-software-2#post-39758 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:01:30 +0000 D0n 39758@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> for $1500 I'd be looking at adding a 23 inch cinema display to my macbook pro, maxing out the ram on my macbook pro and buying up some lacie or buffalo firewire harddrives....</p> <p>or getting a 24 inch imac and a couple gigs of ram.</p> <p>I stick with final cut.</p> <p>If you start your own business, and you take your profits and reinvest them in yourself/ your staff....you can maintian your student status while reducing your taxload by actually going back to school to "upgrade" your skills every couple years. (I went back to school as a college student just to prove to myself I could. ( I have learning disabilities, was self taught and started my own business with nothing, not even grade nine.) My photography instructor still sends work my way, when he's booked (he runs a business, as well as instructs), and my marketing proffessor assured me when he retires (due to conflict of interest policies) he's going to call me about some joint ventures.</p> <p>So be a student, use a student licence. Save on taxes. Use the money you save on taxes to buy the newest versions. Be honest. Sleep well at night. Did I mention save on taxes? </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-software-2#post-39757 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:44:50 +0000 robgrauert 39757@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> what are you gonna be editing. HD or SD? How big will the projects be? Are you gonna be doing any graphics? </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-software-2#post-39756 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:40:20 +0000 dtraer 39756@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Currently I am editing on my Mac Book Pro. I want to buy a desktop system and begin using that, because I'm starting to get more editing work. Problem is, when it come to desktops, I'm a PC guy who doesn't know what to look for in an Apple.</p> <p>Also, I have a very small budget ($1500)and I'm looking for used gear, if necessary.  Can someone recommend basic requirements?</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adding-closed-captions#post-39515 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:55:48 +0000 stitch1z 39515@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Thank you very much.</p> <p> I think I will have to outsource this one. lol.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adding-closed-captions#post-39502 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:33:33 +0000 BarefootMedia 39502@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>If you've already looked into the indexes in your manuals and none of them mention closed captioning, and I assume you have.  Then you may need to look into hiring a professional service.  So far as closed captioning being something simple to do, I beg to differ.  Closed captions are encoded into the vertical blanking bar of analogue video.  And even though you are doing digital editing, the signal that goes to a viewer is an analogue signal.  Since my roots are in linear video production, I know how tube cameras generate the vertical blanking interval.  And for the closed captioning we put on county government meetings, it was done with an analogue device downstream of the switcher, just before entering the modulator for delivery to the headend.</p> <p>So closed captioning on an NLE has to be placed by a program that has access &amp; control over the vertical blanking interval, which I don't think digital video even has.  Until it is converted to a composite signal, there would be no need to create a vertical blanking interval inside the digital file.  But since I've seen players with CC options, so there must be a way for it to be stored in the digital file.  But I'm sure you'd need specialized software to make unique vertical blanking intervals.</p> <p>And there's the expense.  It is very specialized software, with a very small market.  Just to break even it would have to be quite expensive.  So you are most likely to make it a reasonable expense by shopping around for someone to do it for you.  I'd check with your local professional video equipment suppliers to find who can do closed captioning in your area.</p> <p>Good luck.  And thank the government for requiring closed captions on music programming.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/adding-closed-captions#post-39484 Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:52:02 +0000 stitch1z 39484@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello all, I need to prepare a Music Video for broadcast and Music Choice needs Closed Captions added to it.</p> <p>I've searched for answers online and have come up with no real answers. Just encounters with shockingly over-priced software for what seems would be a relatively painless procedure.</p> <p>I run Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, and Adobe After Effects.</p> <p>Thank you!</p>