http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Forums » Tag: wedding - Recent Posts en Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:13:56 +0000 http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/same-day-edit#post-51376 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:17:47 +0000 composite1 51376@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Whether you shoot video or film, tape or digital what would it take to shoot then edit a video of an event and deliver it the same day?</p> <p>I've done it a couple of times and plan to do it for an upcoming job. I can best describe it as 'not fun but fun'. Not fun because of the tremendous stress and precise time management issues but fun when it all works out. Steve Weiss and the latest panel of 'Filmfellas' discuss this very topic from the prospective of high-end wedding filmmakers. Much of what they talk about applies to the journeyman wedding videographer and can be applied to your own projects.</p> <p>Watch the video and let me know your thoughts and experiences on this topic.</p> <p>&lt;embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=6383668&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</p> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/6383668"></a></p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/starting-business-gt-need-advice#post-50614 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:45:28 +0000 grinner 50614@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>1. Staff for places until you gain your own client following.<br /> 2. Freelance long enough to know you can afford an overhead.<br /> 3. Build your business around the clientele asking you to. Finance nothing. Buy as ya go or just keep freelancing. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/recommendation-on-finding-wedding-videographer#post-50470 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:28:49 +0000 zoobie 50470@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>try the soup line...you should be able to find a dozen or so there </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-next-level-of-wedding-video#post-50457 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:23:22 +0000 composite1 50457@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Okay, for some reason the link in the first post is acting weird. Anyway, the video for the previous post is 'Film Fellas' Cast 5 #21 'Creative License'.</p> <p>In Episode #20 'New Art Form', the discussion concerns whether wedding videos can be considered 'Art'. Usually, when the word 'Art' is mentioned concerning video images of tempermental directors and lavishly over-budget productions come to mind. Is it unreasonable to think that beyond the typical journeyman-like business of making wedding videos, wedding producers could create something that could be considered art? Is the wedding video producer merely a 'tool' to augment the wedding photographer or can you be considered a 'cinematographer' there to make unforgettable imagery?</p> <p><a href="http://www.zacuto.com/filmfellas-cast-5" rel="nofollow">http://www.zacuto.com/filmfellas-cast-5</a> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/recommendation-on-finding-wedding-videographer#post-50438 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:24:32 +0000 birdcat 50438@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I would suggest looking for someone associated with WEVA (Wedding and Event Videographers Assoc.) - Their website is <a href="http://www.weva.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.weva.com</a>. They have a button on the top left of page to put a request to WEVA members.</p> <p>Good luck. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/recommendation-on-finding-wedding-videographer#post-50436 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:05:16 +0000 bloomingg 50436@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>My guy has pulled out on me? Date is this Sept 19th. Quality and creativity is important to me (I do a little on the side thus being on this site).</p> <p>Any recommenations/suggestions on where to find someone in the New York City or Scranton, PA area (getting married in Lords Valley PA)? Any suggestions would be great. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/the-next-level-of-wedding-video#post-50432 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:55:35 +0000 composite1 50432@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I've shot weddings as a photographer both in an official capacity and as a freelancer. I personally try to avoid doing weddings as a videographer because the majority of potential clients don't understand that my services come with a level of quality of look and content they must be prepared to pay for.</p> <p>Now that the wedding video industry has started to mature, the artistic and professional quality has grown exponentially from 'Uncle Joe' and his hand held camera to Digital Cinematography.</p> <p>So with that in mind, if you are looking to get into wedding video work or already making a living at it you should ask yourself; what's the next level and how far is my current work from it? Whether you are already asking yourself these questions or scratching your heads, check out the latest discussion on the topic from the latest panel of Steve Zacuto's 'Film Fellas'</p> <p><a href="http://www.zacuto.com/filmfellas-cast-5" rel="nofollow">http://www.zacuto.com/filmfellas-cast-5</a> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/thieves-get-away-with-priceless-tapes#post-50093 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:07:59 +0000 zoobie 50093@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>thanks...I'll make absolutely certain I don't shoot one single wedding...</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/thieves-get-away-with-priceless-tapes#post-50003 Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:09:49 +0000 BruceMol 50003@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I thought I'd post this and ask what forum members do to make sure this doesn't happen to them...</p> <p>by Castanet Staff - Story: 48791<br />Aug 11, 2009 / 1:00 pm<br /><a href="http://castanet.net/edition/news-story-48791-101-.htm#48791">http://castanet.net/edition/news-story-48791-101-.htm#48791</a></p> <p>All he wants is his tapes back.</p> <p>PRW Productions, a home based video business on Jokmar Court in West Kelowna, was broken into Tuesday morning.</p> <p>Along with about $10,000 worth of video cameras and equipment, owner Patrick Wielders says thieves also stole DV tapes from a wedding he had recently videoed. <br />"I would like to appeal to whomever stole these items to return the DV tapes that were in the large black case and in one of the cameras," says Wielders.</p> <p>"This footage is not replaceable." <br />Wielders says thieves were able to get in through the garage at about 4 a.m. Tuesday morning. <br />He asks anyone with information concerning the robbery to contact RCMP or Crime Stoppers.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/starting-business-gt-need-advice#post-49388 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:32:57 +0000 composite1 49388@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Wazzu,</p> <p>Before you jump into the biz you need to take some time to really plan out what your business plan and goals are. You say you figure you'll go into it by shooting weddings, have you ever shot one before? Have you done any research on how to set up the shoot with your potential customers, plan the shoot, set up a minimum equipment list, set up a shot list, plan the actual shoot, what will your editing-delivery turnaround time be and how much to charge for your services? That's a good deal of info to not be aware of. </p> <p>Birdcat and the others are correct, Wedding Video shoots are exceptionally stressful and screwing just one up can kill your reputation. If you can, intern or apprentice under someone currently in the wedding video business. You may find that you don't like shooting weddings. I've shot a number of them as a photographer and videographer and I try to avoid them as much as possible. I applaud your excitement level, but your naivete' will cause you tons of grief.</p> <p>I thoroughly recommend you research this as a business <strong>before you spend any money on gear or anything else!</strong> If you don't have any experience shooting video at all, Anyone in the forums can attest that shooting a proper video to be sold commercially takes more than just picking up a camera and shooting. And for goodness sake please don't jump on a gig just because someone wants 'a student shooter'. That's just code for they 'don't want to pay anything for the job' and if you botch the job (cause at this stage you will), unless you've taken the time to learn what to do and make your mistakes when they won't count as much.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/starting-business-gt-need-advice#post-49363 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:07:43 +0000 EarlC 49363@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Read "<a href="http://eccomeecgo.blogspot.com/2009/06/costing-entry-level-video-business.html">Entry Level Video Business</a>" and "<a href="http://eccomeecgo.blogspot.com/2009/06/whats-it-cost-to-produce-average.html">What's It Cost to Produce the Average Wedding</a>" for some ideas, thoughts, tips and insights.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/starting-business-gt-need-advice#post-49355 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:42:26 +0000 Aikidoken 49355@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Here's a quick laundry list..</p> <p>HD Video Camera (everyone is going HD so this going to be the norm)</p> <p>Wireless Lapel Mic</p> <p>On Camera lighting </p> <p>Tripod (don't buy a cheap one..) </p> <p>Computer for editing (if you are a PC, get a quad core or i7 processor with 8 GB Ram and 1 TB memory with a 512 MB Nvidia graphics card and a decent Monitor )</p> <p>Headphones </p> <p>Buy your equipment so it becomes your best friend..Also, read up /watch on how to shoot weddings /camera movements but only as reference guide, in the end you will have to find your own style..get some experience, respect those who have been in this business a long time..Remember this is an important film for the couple</p> <p>some of the projects we do are re-editing wedding movies shot by amateurs who right off the bat charges an arm and a leg for a pretty stale and boring wedding video..it ruins the business for everyone...Good luck  </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/best-mic-for-capturing-wedding-audio#post-47278 Thu, 28 May 2009 03:24:06 +0000 Sterling 47278@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> The wireless mic is definitely easier to hide on the groom than on the bride.  I have found that by placing an omnidirectional mic element low on the chest, about sternum height, the level picked up from officiant and bride will be better balanced relative to the groom's voice, even though it will also pick up more other sounds.  (This mic location technique can also work well for the sound reinforcement mic the officiant may be using, allowing all to better hear the three.) I like to have a shotgun or directional mic on a desk stand hidden near the altar area, too, usually mixed with the wireless lavalier, mixer controlled at my camera location where I can monitor the sound.  That mic will usually get better sound than the camcorder mic could pick up if something goes awry, like the groom forgetting to turn on the mic. :-(</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/help-with-nonlinear-video-equipment#post-47067 Fri, 22 May 2009 02:05:56 +0000 candjvideo 47067@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> It really depends on how much your budget is.  You can go very conservative or hog wild.  The prices on everything from software to equipment is in a wide range. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/help-with-nonlinear-video-equipment#post-47060 Thu, 21 May 2009 23:42:19 +0000 marco 47060@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> i last year i started filming weddings and events i recently purchased a Sony HVR-HD1000u camera and a new top notch XPS pc. I want like help on what other equipment i should purchase for a good home based studio. Also what software i should use for editing in HD looking to be able to burn hd , blue ray finished products. Please keep in mind budget need equipment and software to do good jpb but not break the bank lol . Thank you to all in advance.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/narration-and-wedding-movie-opinions-needed-from-video-producers#post-45650 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:38:19 +0000 EarlC 45650@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Sorry, I am sooooooo open-minded about all things to market and product, but sounds to me like this one would be a hard sell - based primarily on the thought that wedding productions are so very unique and intimate to each B&amp;G, that some generic VO simply would NOT peg their personal situations enough for producers to be willing to invest in a library of this as opposed to, say, copyright free music libraries.</p> <p>Brings to mind, also, the old Rabbyte, etc. stuff where they developed some pretty decent animated sequences for 'the vows" "the ceremony" "the rings" 'the kiss" etc. but it quickly became cliche and cheesey to use them, when moving smoothly from wedding element to element without announcing it looked more professional.</p> <p>Just my opinion, of course. Hope others will see this and chime in as well. Keep thinking of things, there's a host of product and concepts just waiting to be developed, discovered, created, marketed and sold "out there."</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/narration-and-wedding-movie-opinions-needed-from-video-producers#post-45617 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:42:12 +0000 kaasis 45617@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hello everyone! I have an idea to offer for download professionally produced narrations by the same voice talents which you have probably heard somewhere on the TV, movies and commercials. These narrations would be ready for instant download for a fraction of the cost of typical narration when you have to hire a voice talent. The catch is that you won't be able to customize the script of what narrator speaks but you will be offered number of pre-recorded narrations which would be composed by professional writers. These narrations would have some generic speech with artistic elements probably which would suit for many different wedding movies. It would be like a music track but with speech and produced with intention in mind for producers to choose certain parts only in the speech which they want to add to their movie.I think it would be a great supplement for wedding movies for a reasonable price. My question is what is your opinion on narration in wedding movies in general (good/bad/ever use it) and what do you think about my idea? Thanks a lot!</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-much-do-i-charge#post-42427 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:24:33 +0000 sketcht 42427@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Usually the rental cost is about 10% of the unit price. 10 rentals later the gear is paid for and the rest is profit. Use this profit to get more gear to rent out. Sell the gear while it still has value to stay on top the industry. At first I always undersold my self. Charge the company xx amount and pay yourself a percent of that. This way you can use profit from labour to cover unexpected costs like transportation. Just make sure the end justifies the means.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/starting-business-gt-need-advice#post-41899 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:11:27 +0000 TheLoneBanana 41899@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Here's a thought, un(in)formed enough that I can't really call it advice. What about buying the stuff you can't rent locally? In my area, I can easily rent a camera, but lighting instruments or professional-quality microphones are rare or unavailable.</p> <p>Typically you spend more time editing than shooting, so maybe it's a good idea to plough your dough into a good NLE that you'll own all the time, and rent a camera for the occasions when you've got a gig.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-much-do-i-charge#post-41898 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:18:38 +0000 TheLoneBanana 41898@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>In researching business plans, I came across an interesting rule of thumb. Add up your living and business costs for one month, then divide that number by 80; that gives you your hourly rate (without profit). The idea is that you will work 80 paid hours per month (20 paid hours per week). Of course, you will actually work more than that -- doing your accounting, taking classes and training, maintaining your equipment, practicing and experimenting -- but you should count on only 20 paid hours per week.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-much-do-i-charge#post-41780 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:44:15 +0000 NewBirthProductions 41780@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>The cam you have that they want to rent, Is it a spare you have, or the one you make your living with?</p> <p>If it's a spare then rent it, like don said get the replacment price as a deposit.  and far as how much call your local video shops and ask them what they charge.  normaly the rental market charges 5 to 10% per day of the replacment price of the gear.</p> <p>If it is your main cam then do not rent it.  If it's a deal killer then call a local rental company and reant one from them add 10% for your trouble, and don't forget the replacment cost as a deposit.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-much-do-i-charge#post-41765 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:08:47 +0000 D0n 41765@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Charge more for renting the camera than for sending a videographer and camera. take a deposit for the full replacement cost of the camera if you do rent it.</p> <p>figure out what you need to pay yourself for your time and wear and tear on your gear, and any other business costs. Compare that to what your competitors are charging. If they are charging considerably more or less than your estimates, find out why, and then make some descisions.</p> <p>I doubt any advice stating "Charge xxx amount of dollars" is going to help you more than advice telling you to "make a business plan" and figure it out.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/how-much-do-i-charge#post-41764 Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:56:07 +0000 sternCC 41764@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi Im a freelance videographer based in Texas who has done the majority of my work independently working on varios surf and skate movies. I recently was hired by a company to occasionaly help shoot weddings and also occasionally rent them my camera. I am new to the whole filming wedding gig. How do i go about coming up with prices? The company wants me to list my price for: Renting my camera(Sony VX2000) last Saturday for a two hour shoot and then this Saturday they will be using me and my camera for another shoot around 2 hours. Anyone have any suggestions? I dont want to get ripped off but I would also like the company to call me offer me more work. Any ideas are appreciated.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-room-tone-from-wedding#post-41227 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:23:13 +0000 robgrauert 41227@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Try doing the high pass and low pass filters after you do the noise reduction in Soundbooth. I read that the best workflow for cleaning up audio is noise reduction&gt;high pass filter&gt;low pass filter. I guess I should have mentioned that in the first post. </p> <p> I'm still in college--still in college because I'm bored with it, so I take the least amount of classes as I can every quarter. I do freelance too. It's hard to find a steady job since I don't have a degree yet. Actually, it's probably hard finding one when you DO have a degree, haha. </p> <p> I specialize in the documentary style...stuff that you would see on the discovery channel, although, lately i've been shooting/editing a lot with sports. Still documentary style though. I did a wedding once, i hated it though. </p> <p> Keep up the good work. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-room-tone-from-wedding#post-41220 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:30:17 +0000 flogonojo 41220@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> WOW! I can not believe the difference. I tried the high pass and low pass filters...that didn't do anything, but I brought the audio clip into Adobe Soundbooth and the noise reduction really cleaned it up! Granted, it's not perfect, but now the room tone is a stream compared to an ocean. Thanks so much! Btw, I see you post a lot on this forum, and if I recall, you're pretty young. What kind of stuff do you do? I'm just out of college doing random freelance jobs. It's cool. Anyways, thought I would strike up a conversation between fellow videographers.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-room-tone-from-wedding#post-41218 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:29:43 +0000 robgrauert 41218@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Newer programs, such as Soundtrack Pro in Final Cut Studio 2 and whatever Adobe's equivalent is, have a "Noise Reduction" function. It works really well. </p> <p>If don't have the noise reduction feature in your audio program, apply a high pass and low pass filter to your clips.</p> <p>High pass filters allow frequencies ABOVE a certain point to pass through the filter. This is good for blocking bass frequencies. For dialogue, set it to 90Hz and move it up slowly, but don't move it up too high.</p> <p>Low pass filters allow frequencies BELOW a certain point to pass through the filter. This is good for a hiss or buzz. Start at 10KHz and slowly move it down, but generally not below 8KHz. </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/editing-room-tone-from-wedding#post-41215 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:30:12 +0000 flogonojo 41215@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hey all, I just had a quick question about editing some nasty room tone audio for a wedding I'm editing. Basically, my camera guy was doing a wedding and turned down the audio real low on the wireless lapel mic that he put on the groom and now when I boost the audio to an appropriate level the 'I do's' sound like the bride and groom are at the ocean rather than in a church. Does anyone have any suggestions? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/length-of-typical-wedding-dvd#post-40496 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:26:10 +0000 digitalcamcorderdd 40496@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>thanks for help</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/first-wedding-help-welcomed#post-40495 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:55:04 +0000 sham 40495@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>No way you can do a good job without a second camera operator.  That wide shot of the camera at the back would be boring. Here's how I shoot weddings.</p> <p> That camera at the back on the balcony (with an operator) would be on a fairly tight shot of the priest  who is performing the ceremony. The operator can vary his shot, sometimes including the couple. The wireless lavalier would be on the priest, who after all, does the most talking. The priest's lavalier should pick up the couple's audio fairly OK.  The second camera, positioned behind the priest shoots the couple most of the time.  It can also takes shots of the guests from that same position. If you only have one mic you can use the on board mic on this second camera to pick up audio from the loudspeakers just as a guide track.  If this audio is good you can even use it. This camera can even shoot the choir.</p> <p>If you have a plug-in transmitter you can plug this into the church's PA and your camera on the balcony can also shoot the persons who are doing the first and second readings. </p> <p>Think of what equipment you have at your disposal and how best to use what you have to cover everything. Keep both cameras running continously and use still photographer's flashes for achieving  sync.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/length-of-typical-wedding-dvd#post-40493 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:55:00 +0000 sham 40493@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>I always two cameras for weddings, so I end up with four/five rolls of Mini DV tape.  When I started to shoot weddings I used to edit it down to just under an hour.  But nearly all my customers want to see more of the footage that was shot.  So what I do is to give them two versions, a long one, about two hours, with most of the footage, and a short version, about one hour, in which I take out long boring speeches. I always burn at High Quality which is approx. one hour to a disc.  So the long version takes up two discs. It's a little more work but it's easy to do on Avid which I use. </p> <p>Another innovation in my wedding videos is the use of digital stills. After the church ceremony and before the reception, while the still photographer is doing his thing with the couple and the guests, I quickly shoot digital stills.  Later in editing, using pan and zoom and other techniques, I cut the pictures to music, usually a song by Enya.  The couple loves this extra.</p>