http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ Videomaker Forums » Topic: HD Camera shooting SD or Down-convert during import? en Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:07:34 +0000 http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-40353 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:18:35 +0000 robinvid 40353@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Hi other Robs, </p> <p> Although it is on the expensive side, geared towards the professional market, Edirol has just come out with the F-1 Video hard drive recorder.  I am going to try one out, hopefully with a Sony EX1 and a couple of older DVCAMS that we have.  It takes firewire in and records directly to a hard drive and gives two additional XLR inputs for recording two channels of uncompressed audio that are synced to your video.  These audio channels are in addition to whatever audio gets recorded through the firewire (which is compressed audio).  It records in HDV or SD.  Don't know much more than that about it at this point, but it is just under 3 grand. It certainly eliminates tape capture and gives a better quality audio recording.  By the way;  Robs Rule</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-38573 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:16:22 +0000 robgrauert 38573@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> yea, i'd rather just a get a firestore if I got an HDV camera. Then I could have the benefits of that work flow. I hate capturing tapes. </p> <p> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-38547 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:35:10 +0000 ralck 38547@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p>Robgaruert,</p> <p>You might want to also consider something like a Zoom H4 player.  It's a separate audio recorder and has 4 XLR inputs.  I've never used one, but heard a lot of good things about them.  I think I saw it on B&amp;H for about 300, so it might be cheaper than getting a firestore.</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-38543 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:35:25 +0000 robgrauert 38543@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> robinleeedwards,</p> <p> Thanks for the input. I was hoping that shooting SD right away would be just as good as shooting HDV, editing HDV, and exporting SD. I guess not though. Either way, it saves me time, effort and money. So thank you.</p> <p> And to your last comment about the audio, I've heard that recording HDV to tape sacrifices audio quality a bit to make room for the HDV image. I don't know the engineering behind it though. Apparently recording to a hard drive is the solution to having better audio quality though.</p> <p> Thanks.</p> <p> </p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-38495 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:17:36 +0000 robinleeedwardsyahoocom 38495@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hi Rob:</p> <p>I've got the HX-A1 and shoot HDV on regular blue sony dv tapes, not the "spensive" ones. Never a problem in dozens of tapes. Notice that the stores are not even stocking the HD tapes as much as they did??</p> <p>Consider shooting and editing in HDV and then down-converting afterwards to SD for export. Here's what I know from experience, Green-screen work is so much better in HDV than SD (sampling), Skin tone, and sky tone and blowouts are all superior.</p> <p>One negative I've read, but haven't experienced is that audio is better (compression) on SD than HDV. Go figure.</p> <p>Robin Edwards</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-38491 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:35:55 +0000 cadaver 38491@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> hi,</p> <p>what i heard is that,</p> <p>HDV to HDV will not be the same as the HDV to DV, but the image quality of the (HDV TO DV ) will be mutch better than a average DV cam</p> http://videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/hd-camera-shooting-sd-or-down-convert-during-import#post-38482 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:21:48 +0000 robgrauert 38482@http://videomaker.com/community/forums/ <p> Hey Guy,</p> <p> I'm thinking about getting a HDV camera since they're cheaper and I want to down-convert to SD right away anyway. It makes for very nice SD video and HDV is kind of buggy anyway...</p> <p> I'm looking at the Canon A1. Does anyone know if there is a difference between recording SD right away and recording onto HD tape and then down-converting on the import? If recording SD will give me the same results as recording HD and then down-converting, I can save myself money from buying the more expensive HD tapes and a new tape deck (I'm not a fan of using cameras as decks.) </p> <p> Thanks,</p> <p> Rob G. </p>