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shutter speed settings for VX2100

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Started 3 months ago by FallingStarFilms
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FallingStarFilms
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Hi everyone. I need some advice for shooting an up coming dance recital where the light will be fairly dark with a spotlight from time to time and lots of fast motion legs and arms flailing around. I trying to avoid a repeat of something that happened in the past.

I recently shot a wedding reception in low light with lots of flashes and dance floor blinking lights. The VX2100 was in auto mode and everytime there was a flash, I got the combing effect. Is there a recommended setting that would help reduce this? Faster shutter speed and increased iris / exposure? I've been trying to duplicate this so I can work it out on my own, but I'm apparently missing something.

Thanks in advance for you expertise,

Trey

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robgrauert
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boosting the shutter speed and increasing the iris should reduce the motion blur. You can even boost the gain so that you can boost the shutter speed more, however, you might create some grain in dark situations. I wouldn't boost it more than 3dB. From what I've heard, the VX2100 shoots very well in low light, so hopefully you don't have to boost your gain.

But in a nutshell, boosting the shutter speed and opening the iris will eliminate or reduce the motion blur. Is that what you meant by "combing effct"...the motion blur?

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FallingStarFilms
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Thanks. I appreciate that advice. By Combing effect - maybe that's something different - I don't know. When I import into Vegas MS Plat, I would see a zig zag edge or comb tooth especially on people or objects in motion. This seems to be greatest in brighter light or when (in auto mode) going from dark to bright very quickly. From your previous posts, I don't think you are a Vegas guy, but just in case, I set the project options for progressive with no interpolated interlacing. That setting helped to reduce the "comb effect", but I can't help but think I could have set the camera to a setting that would have captured better. Does any of this make sense, or have I gotten so nuerotic that I am completely nuts.

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robgrauert
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I've never heard of a combing effect, but I kind of understand what you're saying. I've never experienced it though. My guess is that you should import your footage as interlaced footage. I could be wrong because I don't have one, but I don't believe the VX2100 shoots progressive scanning, and from what I've heard and read, going from interlace to progressive is hard, takes a lot of time, and can often create artifacts. With that being said, I would assume shooting interlaced and capturing progressive is not the way to go. I would assume going from interlace to progressive is more complicated than changing your capture settings. But then again, you're saying it reduces the effect that you're having problems with. hmmm. Perhaps try shooting something in low light with your shutter speed fast and iris open, then try to capture that as interlaced.

Also, are you looking at an external monitor or just your computer screen? NTSC footage will always look crappy on a computer monitor. The reason for this is the pixel aspect ratio. The pixels on a computer screen are squares where as pixels of NTSC footage are .9 of a pixel. Does that make sense? That little difference does cause the edges of some objects to look jagged and zig-zagged when looking at it on your computer screen when in reality it looks fine. Computer screens also scan progressively, which may be why your combing effect is reduced when you capture progressive.

That is also the reason why when exporting for the internet, you export your video with the dimensions of 640X480 rather than 720X480 (or a multiple of that, such as 320X240, which seems to be most common for the internet).

If you're not looking at an external monitor, I would say that is the culprit and you should continue shooting with a fast shutter speed, open iris and capture interlaced.

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And yes, I don't use Vegas. I use Final Cut. I like Macs. Never like PCs...even before I started video.

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robgrauert
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If you're not viewing an external monitor, what you could do is set your NLE (non linear editing system; Vegas in your case) to have video and audio play back going out through firewire. Connect that firewire from your computer to a miniDV deck or camera. Then come out of the deck or camera via RCA to a TV or monitor. I use a deck with a 13 inch TV, but a real monitor would be ideal because TVs have chips in them that are programed with algorithms to automatically fix blemishes. As an editor, you want to see those blemishes so you can address them, which is why a real monitor would be the way to go, but a TV is better than nothing.

Having this set up causes play back of video and audio between your external monitor and computer monitor to be out of sync. This should be able to be adjusted in your NLE, I couldn't tell you how though because I use Final Cut Pro. I can tell you that the difference for me using FCP is 4 frames.

I usually tell people they shouldn't use their camera as a deck because it wears out the heads over time, however, using a camera in this situation should do no damager because it's just a signal passing through.

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FallingStarFilms
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Thanks Bro! I appreciate all the time and effort you put in to helping out here. I think you are right about the monitor and about the faster shutter. I've been playing with this since my original post and that seems to address all my issues.

And BTW, I am definately going Mac as soon as I can arrange it. After all these years with PC issues and now with the @#%$^ VISTA - enough is enough. I am definately ready.

Thanks again for your help,

Trey

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BarefootMedia
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Okay guys, first of all, what you call "combing" (which is an artifact from encoding & decoding RF signals) is in fact, the result of interlaced video. If you set the VX2100 to shoot progressive video, you won't get it. Instead, you'll get a sort of shearing effect with fast moving objects or during too fast pans. The effect is more pronounced, the slower your shutter (since things have more time to move across the frame.) And really, unless you have a strong reason to run your camera in complete auto, don't! Isn't that why you got a VX2100, so you could control the camera? You can always kick auto in by sliding the switch up, even when you're shooting. (But that's just a personal preference developed over twenty years of professional production.)

Now as far as using the Firewire out to display your video output, it works great. If you're concerned about running the camcorder all the time, do what I did. I hit up pawn shops to find a DV camcorder (with Firewire IO) where the recorder part is broken. They are useless to pawn shops and you can get one for a song. The connection was descibed just fine, but Vegas fixes the synch problem by not displaying the program out on the computer monitor when it is set to display on an external monitor. After all, the computer monitor preview is just to make locating desired video easier & faster. It was never intended to provide accurate images.

And while I hate getting involved in the Mac vs PC debate, I do wonder why you would even consider using Windows VISTA when XP has been such a solid platform? I had a free upgrade available and didn't use it. If you don't like VISTA, why would you use it? A solid majority of Windows users run XP. But if you jump to a Mac, you'll have to replace every program you use with the almost always more expensive Mac version. In fact every aspect of the Mac is more expensive. That's why Mac users are so vocal about their support for their machines, they have to justify the additional expense. And my computers can be upgraded at much less cost, not to mention the vast array of freeware & shareware written by top notch programmers. You should take the hint Apple gave when they switched their chips and added Windows capacity. They are no longer a superior system (if they ever were.) They play catch-up and put users on the short end of the stick. If you don't like VISTA (and who does?) consider going to linux. Linux users are even more vocal about the superiority of their OS. And with good reason, both Mac & Windows users are migrating. It seems they don't like being manipulated by any corporate giant. And please remember, MAC users have basically one choice for their NLE. So much for choice. And as a final note, back when I worked in a shop with both Pc's & Mac's, it was the Mac's that had the problems. And their users just failed to see it.

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robgrauert
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What are you talking about? I just looked at the Adobe programs on B&H, same price for Windows and Mac. I didn't bother to look at Avid because well, who cares about Avid. What programs cost more for Mac then PC? Please enlighten me. And by the way, Final Cut Studio is actually quite cheap.

I would agree, Macs are more expensive, but you don't get all the bullshit you get with a PC. It's not easy to hack into a Mac. (God forbid you go in the internet for 2 seconds on a PC. You'll have a virus before you know it.) You don't get annoying dialogue boxes that keep coming up even when you check the box that says, "don't ask me again" or whatever it says. It's easier to navigate with a Mac because the user interface makes sense. Mac users aren't vocal to justify paying a lot of money, we're just sick of hearing all the lame arguments against Apple. Not that you said it, but I lost count of how many times I've heard someone complain about the one button mouse.

I'm pretty sure the reason they went with intel chips is to increase the speed. The chips have nothing to do with the operating system. I'm sure the reason they enabled Windows is to try and appeal to the dumbasses who uses it.

How does Apple play catch up when every feature they create is ripped off by PC?

Mac users aren't limited to one NLE system. It just happens to be that Mac user like Final Cut because it isn't ass backwards, and is starting to push Avid out of the way anyway. But whats wrong with FCP, Avid, and Premiere? Those are they major NLEs of the industry.

Stop complaining about Mac. You PC user never make any good points, and you'll never convince someone to go from Mac to PC. When is the last time you heard someone say, "Oh golly, I'm glad I got rid of my Mac." So just get over it. It's not like you can look at a video and tell what computer or program was used to create it anyway

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robgrauert
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You don't get pop up windows when you go in the internet with a Mac either. I totally forgot about that one because I've never gotten a pop up with my Mac.

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BarefootMedia
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I've had broadband connections for years & never gotten a virus. And I don't maintain anti-virus programs. I just don't do stupid stuff. I don't get pop-ups and I apparently don't get the junk mail I hear about from others. And perhaps my perception of the software prices may be greater than it actually is. And if you'd care to look into it, Vegas is increasingly popular among pros. Especially those coming to video from musical backgrounds.

You obviously know nothing about computer chips if you think the OS and the chip are not joined at the hip. The chip is specifically designed for an OS. The machine language for Apples & PC's are unintelligible to each other. When Apple moved to Intel chips, they re-wrote their machine code to be more compatible with PC machine code. If they went to Intel for speed, it would have been because the Motorola folks couldn't rewrite their machine language. But I believe the reason was related to Intel patents on the machine code needed to have any PC compatibility. There is no reason Motorola couldn't make faster chips. But there is no question they couldn't use any of the architecture required to run PC machine code. Apple had to have compatibility with PC's to remain competitive. And it was a windfall for Intel.

You're right that you can't tell the NLE someone chooses to use. So I fail to understand why you'd bother to bring it up how FCP isn't "ass backwards" and is encroaching on Avid dominance. At one time the Apple OS kicked ass. Now it's no big shakes. And I do love how Mac users think Apple invented the point & click GUI. They licensed it. Now good old Stevie really did make it into something unique for the time. But it was really only adopted by well off, visually oriented users. Until Billy decided he could sell more computers if people didn't have to learn UNIX or DOS, the visual GUI was little more than a status symbol for people above using a computer for work.

And the reason you don't hear "I'm glad I got rid of my Mac" is because you don't ask. PC users don't have justify their choice of a computer based on an artsy, intellectual image. It was ages & ages ago that there was a difference in what the computers were able to do. Now computers are purchased for the same reasons as cars. You've got to have one, but some folks have to claim theirs are better.

So your entire rant is exactly what psychology predicts of individuals who purchase a expensive items. They come up with all kinds of excuses for making status based purchases. And you can bet the industrial/advertising psychologists who did the research were hired by Apple to consult on marketing. Apple continues to market image over performance. The closest they've come are the Mac & PC dudes where the Mac implies it works better than VISTA, hell, both Windows 98 & XP work better than VISTA. But the campaign is still about image. So go ahead & prove my point by going on how your computer is better than my computer, because ???? (Because buying a Mac proves you're a more artistic, sensitive person.)

But I just can't stand to see people saying they're going to buy a Mac because Mac's are better computers. They are not better. They are hardly different these days. If you want a better OS, use linux. If you want to get serious and work, then just do it. You're not going to edit any better on a Mac. Either you can edit or you can't. It amazes me that people can't do something as simple as edit using an NLE. But it also amazes me that people don't have any idea how their computers actually operate. It is so obvious. Just like good lighting, I can't believe people can't light a scene. You can see exactly what you're getting.

But I should know better. I actually understood statistics and graduate psychology. I know the vast majority of the population operates well out of their range of understanding. So of course they will choose things for the status, it is the only criteria they understand. But all of this has nothing to do with video production. I just wanted to point out that getting a Mac isn't going to improve any part of your production process. And all the NLE's do basically the same thing. So tossing out hundreds dollars of hardware to get a "better computer" isn't going to make things easier or better. It's just going to cost more.

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robgrauert
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get over it dude

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BarefootMedia
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Please, you first.

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FallingStarFilms
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And after all that... I did the shoot the recital this weekend and it came out perfect. I set the shutter speed to 90 and exposure to F2.4 0dB and all was wonderful. And I would like to answer why would anyone use VISTA. I didn't want to. I was in the middle of editing a wedding and my Dell's CPU and motherboard fried at the same time. Rather than fix it (as it was 3 years old) I just bought another one from Dell. The only problem was that if I got one with XP it only came with the older hardware. If I wanted the new hardware, well, you guessed it. Anyway, I've gotten used to it - the way one gets used to a bone spur.

At anyrate, Thanks Rob for the advice on the shutter speed and the interlacing, and thanks Barefoot - you bring years of experience to this forum and I appreciate the help from both of you.

Now, continue fighting. It's very intertaining :)

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robgrauert
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Alright, I'll throw it out there...you owned me with that last post. So I did some homework.

As for as you personally never having virus problems, I find that hard to believe after you say you don't even maintain anti virus software. You should have been in Lord of the Rings or something because obviously you're some kind of wizard man with PCs or something. You even said, "I don't get pop-ups and I apparently don't get the junk mail I hear about from others." So obviously, people do have problems with PCs even though you personally aren't experiencing them. (Actually, does junk have anything to do with what kind of computer you have? I use hotmail and still get junk mail, but it goes into a separate folder in hotmail. It has nothing to do with whether or not im on a PC or Mac)

  I really have no idea why Apple went with Intel chips. With some research, I've found that the dramatic increase in Apple's sales in laptops have a lot to do with it. Jobs wanted to have a 3GHz G5 processor out by mid 2004 and have G5 based PowerBooks, but IBM's pace in processor development was too slow. So they went with Intel, who they feel will progress much faster. To stay competitive...makes sense to me.

The reason why I said FCP isn't "ass backwards" was to address you saying that Mac users are limited to one NLE. Let's say for the sake of argument that Mac users only had FCP to edit with (they're not, but lets say they are). Transitioning from one NLE to FCP probably isn't very hard. I've used Adobe Premier and found that it's very similar to FCP. So I was trying to say that going from PC to Mac wouldn't be a hard adjustment in terms of using FCP. Now, I can't speak for a program like Vegas because I've never used it, but if it's like Adobe Premier, then it's probably similar to FCP. Also keep in mind that there are other programs available to edit with on a Mac other than FCP.

The reason why I said FCP is pushing Avid out of the way is because everyone I go to school with uses FCP over Avid because it's easier to use (hey, there's that word again...easier). What's the industry going to do when all of us graduate and we all know FCP and not Avid. FCP is going to take over because everyone is using it. Some feature films have been edited on FCP. I've never heard of one being edited on Vegas, have you? I was trying to make the point again that transitioning to FCP isn't going to be that hard and will benefit the editor due to the fact that it is rapidly becoming the choice of new editors in the industry anyway.

You say, "And if you'd care to look into it, Vegas is increasingly popular among pros. Especially those coming to video from musical backgrounds." I'm not saying Vegas has no place in the industry, but I used to go on Craig's List all the time to look for editing jobs around Philadelphia and I've never seen an ad posted by someone who wanted a Vegas editor. Everyone either wants Adobe Premier, Avid or Final Cut. Final Cut is the most common request. This guy who I've been steadily working for since Jan. is also thinking about getting Final Cut for himself even though the company he runs currently has a bunch of Avids. The over all point I was trying to make by saying FCP isn't ass backwards is that transitioning won't be hard and that it will be beneficial since it is becoming a major player in the industry anyway. It had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you can't tell what NLE was used to edit a video. I'm also aware that my views on Vegas in relation to the industry maybe be a bit skewed since Craig's List isn't the only place to look for a jobs.

"So your entire rant is exactly what psychology predicts of individuals who purchase a expensive items. They come up with all kinds of excuses for making status based purchases." I don't know where you get off trying to tell me that I got my Mac for status. Pardon my language, but fuck off. And I know a lot of people who do a lot of research before they buy things. I've heard people tell other people to make sure they get what they need rather than what they want. And if you told those people that they got their equipment based on status, they'd be pretty pissed too. I can tell you that I got my Mac because when I was in 9th grade my family decided to get a computer, we got a Dell. Of course, the piece of shit never worked. My brother, who is a computer nerd, constantly had to fix shit. I wasn't even doing video then. Just trying to do research on the internet for school, typing papers, and wasting my time talking on instant messenger. Then in 2005 I became interested in video and took a video class for my senior year of high school, while taking my teachers advice and got a Mac (an iBook to be exact). Ever since then I've been using a Mac; only a small number of problems were encountered, and they were very easy to fix. It was very easy to learn the interface of the OS as well. Now I have a MacPro with a 23 inch screen. Does it look cool? Hell yea! Can I bring a girl in my room and expect to see some titties after she sees my computer? Probably. But did I get my computer for those reasons? Hell NO. I got my Mac because IT WORKS!

  I don't know all the technical stuff that you seem to know. Maybe on paper you can prove that a PC is better than a Mac. But what it comes down to for me is: When I sit down in front of a PC, a lot of things about the computer annoy me. When I'm in front of a Mac, it just works. While your psychology degree is notable, you can't take your knowledge and stamp it onto every Mac user when time after time Mac users will 100% of the time agree with the statement "Macs work." I don't even know anyone who has a Mac and isn't involved in a creative industry. So your psychological theory that Mac users got their computers for status is out the window in my opinion.

And as for Apple marketing image over performance...Mac users already are going to stick with Macs whether they advertise performance or not. For Apple to appeal to the dumbasses with PCs, they have to go with advertising the image. You think everyone knows the technical mumbo jumbo? A large portion of the population doesn't even need to know that stuff...

  I'll admit it, I've heard people say Linux is better than the Mac OS, but I don't really care. The Mac OS works fine for me and there is no need for me to go to Linux. I'll say it again...IT JUST WORKS. And you're right...either you can edit or you can't. But with a Mac, you're not putting up with the crap you put up with when using a PC.

So the point you tried to make at the end of your post: "So tossing out hundreds dollars of hardware to get a "better computer" isn't going to make things easier or better. It's just going to cost more."  is false in my life. Throwing down a little more money for my Mac has made my life free of head aches.

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robgrauert
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Sorry if I'm offending anyone by calling PC users dumb asses. What I mean to say is the consumers who have PCs are dumb asses, not individuals in the video industry who have a PC.

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robgrauert
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Would you like to know another reason why I like Apple? Surely this reason everyone can relate to.

One time I had to called Apple tech support. My deck wasn't being recognized by the new FCP. Turned out all I had to do was make sure the firewire was plugged into the back of my Mac rather than the front. Anyway, that is beside the point. What really pleased me about my call to Apple tech support wasn't just the customer service, it was how nice and speedy and knowledgeable the person i spoke to was. It was the fact that I was speaking to someone who resides in California, and knows and speaks english very well. It wasn't some asshole half way across the world who I couldn't understand.

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Hana
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Very interesting exchanges above, for whatever its worth I'll throw my two pennies into the pile; I have switched to Mac almost five years ago, and thanks God for the doing that, I have more time on hands learning and doing what I want to rather than spending endless hours figuring out fixes to never ending bugs.

I still use a PC for my daily job, and although it's protected by corporate securities, it is still very volnurable (just had a hard drive re-image last month!), and I would occasionally use my PC laptop to keep up my skills on solving windows bugs.

Knowing both worlds, I'd definitely go Mac for media production, my latest purchase was the Mac Pro 2 Quad core, I am using Final Cut Studio 2 for editing, and quite honestly, I wonder why would need any other program if you relay know how to use FCP.

My interest in reading this thread was to get some info on speed shutter setting to resolve motion blur in shooting dancers, I will need to experiment with raising the speed shutter manually as suggested by FallingStar, how would deal with exposure and focus then, do you maintain auto? I will be shooting a dance recital with Sony FX7, HD setting. The stage will be lit with spot lights (no color lights), and I will be over 50 feet far from it.

Thanks for any advise.

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as a person in the industry, using a PC, being a consumer (i had to buy it), i'll chime in my "dumb ass" two cents in having shot many a stage productions. Hana, there has been some good advice given. Yes, you will have to play with the shutter and exposure to get you optimal shots. I do not recommend using any auto functions during your shoot. White balance with a good source close to performance lighting and set the shutter speed and exposure settings to suit your desired look. Best of luck with the shoot.

John

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327amc
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Great posts Rob and Barefoot. lol

I do just fine with a PC. But as Barefoot said, I dont do dumb shit. Because ive learned from doing plenty of dumb shit in the beginning.

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Hana
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I have taken your advises, Rob, John and FallingStar, and experimented with manual settings at stage lighting. The main problem I have to deal with is getting enough light in without going over 3db in gain to get minimum grain in the picture. I was able to set the shutter speed to 90 and my Sony FX7 would let me adjust the iris to as low as 1.7 if I need to, mostly around 2.0

Now, with the ballet dance recital shooting coming up this weekend, I have some questions left, and hope to get some advise from you guys;

1. I plan on locking the manual setting for shutter speed at 90, gain at 3db, manual adjust the iris to maintain around 2, and manual focus; does this sound ideal under these circumstances, do I need to also lock the iris opening?

2. I have been using the Sony mini dv tapes, I experimented with shooting on Sony HD tape, can't really tell the difference yet. Any advise if I should use the DV or HD tape? I am planning in shooting in HD1080i and editing in FCP2, but was wondering if the HD tape will be more sensitive to the grain effect the than DV tape.

3. I planned to shoot both shows of the recital from two different positions, and use the footage of both shows for multi clip editing in FCP. I will use the original CD music tracks for clean sound, and will use the music tracks of the footage to sync the two shoots with the CD tracks when editing. Naturally the volume level of the footage will be heard in the editing only when the audience is clapping, while the CD track sound will on during the dancing. Being newbie to the business, as this will be my first shoot, are there some things I am missing that I may need later when I am using the footage of both shows to edit a final?

BTW, I have not decided if editing in HD or DV yet, I am shooting in HD to preserve that option if I decided to go that route later.

Thanks for any input from the pros out there.

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robgrauert
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Hana,

To question 1: Your settings sound pretty good, although I can't be sure since I'm not the one behind the camera. You will have to use your best judgement on the fly. It sounds to me that you are working a low light situation, so if you had too, feel free to let more light in by shooting at 1/60th shutter speed. My sister took dancing classes starting at 2 years old through high school, and judging by the performances I was DRAGGED too, you should be OK at 1/60 if you need that extra bit of light. I don't think dancers move fast enough to create a horrible motion blur at 1/60. It's not like you will be using slow mo in post, right?

To question 2: I'm not sure. I've never worked with HD tapes.

To question 3: Good Idea shooting both shows. If you go about it right, post should be quite easy. I would shoot the first show with a pretty good wide shot...your safe shot. Don't go too wide though. I'd shoot it wide enough to cover the stage but not so wide that you have a lot of the crowd's heads in the shot. Maybe just a little bit of the crowd if need be.

Then shoot the second show trying to get close ups and medium shots of the girls and flamboyant boys dancing around, and even cut aways of people in the crowd if there is enough light on them. That way you can cut together a lot of the shots from the second show and have the wide shot of the first show to cut to when you get stuck in editing and don't know what to cut too. That's why the wide shot is called the safe shot.

As far as editing in HD or DV, I'm not sure if there is a difference between editing in HD then down converting to SD afterward and shooting in HD, capturing as DV and exporting as SD. If it were me, I'd edit in HD and then down convert to SD in the end.

Hopefully that helps. So you're gonna put me in the credits since I gave you all this advice, right? Haha, just kidding.

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Hana
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Very helpful Rob.

I would have liked to use higher shutter speed for using some freeze frames through the edit, but they will have edge blur with the speed I am using. I will take your advise on 60-90 shutter speed as light allows, while keeping the gain below 6db, and adjusting the iris accordingly.

One more item, I am looking for some feedback on the white balance; in the back center of the stage there will be a big white curtain, do I use it for white balancing or should I do it on a separte white card, my intent is to get warm color if that white curtain doesn't provide that.

Thanks for the tips, keep them coming, you could certainly be in the credits..

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Johnboy
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depends on the lighting on that curtain. It could be very close, or you would have to modify the balance in post.

John

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Hana
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Looks like I will have with me some white balancing cards if the curtain does have too much reflection of the colored lights, I would like to preserve the scene with its natural colors with a tint of warmth to it(lot of work went into the the costumes the dancers will be wearing).

On HD or DV tape, I have been testing both under similar light conditions, I would say HD had a bit of an edge to DV when it comes to crisp image, but overall not a noticeable difference, I will probably stick with the HD tape for this shoot.

Thanks for the reply.

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robgrauert
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nah...don't record it with warm colors. If the curtain doesn't have shadows in it, use that for white balance, or use your white balance cards if you want. If you can, put the card on the stage and white balance your camcorder from there. Hopefully there aren't any color lights shining on your card or curtain as that would throw off the white balance.

If you want to create a warm feel to the video, do that in post. A general rule of thumb is to record the cleanest picture possible. Then adjust it in post. The last thing you want to do is record your image one way, then change your mind later on.

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